Hilchos Molid Reiach on Shabbos: Perfume, Clothing, Mouthwash, and Repellent

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Now, Shin Chav Beis has an inyan Beis Shanolda. I don't want to go through Beis Shanolda. It's irrelevant to us. You know, Beis Shanolda Rishon, it's asur, v'sheini. That's the whole first perek in Masechtes Beitzah. I don't want to go through it. It's just not... What? Beis Shanolda Rishon? When are we going to do it? It's Hashem. So that's Aleph. Beis is Shabbos lacha yontif, nolad b'zeh asur b'zeh. That's the second part of Beis Shanolda. That's two sugyas in Masechtes Beitzah, okay? First day, second day, okay. Perek shenasru min ha'ilan b'Shabbos. Also, the only thing it's nogea, if you go to your backyard and maybe you'll eat an apple that fell off a tree on Shabbos, it's irrelevant. Huh? Chanukah. Where's the negea to Chanukah? The what? The shemen? The what? The shemen. The shemen afterwards, it's double... it's muktzah. Well, this is perek shenasru min ha'ilan b'Shabbos. It's a different sugya. This is about the... nolad. Nolad, it fell off a tree on... it's not nogea. When you go to a store and you buy an apple, once it came to your house, it's not nogea, unless it fell off on Shabbos. And even that, you're allowed to take one, one. It's almost not nogea, you know, the whole story. Okay. Oichli bheima also, it's not nogea. Daled is this. Yeah, I'm saying, oichli bheima, food for... from that you're going to make a toothpick. Daled is that there's no problem making a toothpick out of animal food. If you got to make a toothpick out of animal food, come to my house and I'll give you a toothpick. Now, Hey becomes somewhat relevant, so we're going to start with Hey. Tomorrow, when the olam comes, or if they come, we'll hold by Shin Chav Gimel. They'll say, What? We're going very fast. Okay. Mutar l'taltel. All right, so Rav Paltiel, go ahead, say. Mutar l'taltel atzei besamim l'hariach בהם. Okay, so what's atzei besamim? Those are hadassim, cinnamon sticks, something which is eitz, hadassim. Well, actually the Mishnah Berurah talks about hadassim. That's the classic, atzei. You see the Sefardim in Eretz Yisrael, they use... Exactly, they use it and they make a borei... besamim with it. So, but you're allowed to take it, and two things you're allowed to do with it: u'lehaniach בהם, okay, l'choyle. Wave it around the choleh. You're waving it around. Ah, it's a good smell. All right, it gives him a good... If you look at the Mishnah Berurah, Mishnah Berurah says lav davka, because if he's not a choleh, what does that have to do with choleh? It's stam mutar. There's nothing wrong with doing this. Go ahead, say the Mishnah Berurah, l'choleh. So mutar l'taltel. Yeah, it's not... So the word choleh is lav davka, fine. U'ma'aleh loi l'hariach boi. Ma'aleh means like he scrapes it and he, whatever, he does something to it in order to give off its smell. Mishnah Berurah is going to go into what it means exactly, what ma'aleh is, but it's not really negei'a. The point is that you're scraping it, you're doing something that it should give off its smell. Now, echad kashim v'echad rakim, it makes no difference if it's soft, if it's hard, it's all mutar. Says the Mishnah Berurah, u'ma'aleh loi, tzarich loimar, v'kaitmoi u'ma'aleh loi, and all this is mutar, right? Why is it mutar? Because there's nothing wrong. It's all mutar. There's nothing wrong. Let's see the Mishnah Berurah, se'if katan yud ches, which explains very simple: echad kashim, hainu afilu kashim she'ein ra'uyim klal l'ma'achal beheimah. Even if it's not ra'uy l'ma'achal beheimah, afilu hachi mutar l'katem u'lefasheach בהם, kol mah sheyirtze, bein sheposheach etz gadol, l'katn. So basically, you're allowed to scrape it and move it and get the smell out of it, okay? So it's all mutar, yeah. So, so far there's no problem. So what is this sugya of reiach? It's called molid reiach. Molid reiach means to create reiach. So we just learned that molid reiach is actually mutar. You're allowed to create reiach. Where is the problem? The problem only is, like the Mishnah Berurah continues, v'davka b'chol zeh, shehu rak l'hosif reiach al yedei hamelilah v'ktitah. That's when you're adding through scraping. Aval asur l'holid reiach, kegon laniach besamim b'beged. That would be asur, to take something which smells good and to put it into clothing, that you got a problem. K'dei sheyabeged meriach, in order that the beged should smell good, asur. That's asur. Of course, that's what we're going to talk about. What do you think we're going to talk about? That's the sugya. That's what it is. That's what we're getting to. I do want to point out, I looked a little bit in the ... sefarim, the poskim. First of all, they don't talk about it בכלל. I prefer ... I don't know, why don't the ladies? They don't talk about the ladies? I don't know. I looked ... I looked ... American poskim.

Perfume, talk about it, perfumes of the... That's all I'm trying to... It was funny, I went to look today. But how come they don't talk about it for a lady? I can't ask a kasha on a sefer. I just know I searched a little bit. I didn't see. I know... I was looking in this... and here, nobody talks about it. I mean, I'm sure somebody talks about it, but I'm saying it's not chapter number one in the sugya, you know what I mean? Chapter one in the sugya is not about this. It's about being moled ice, like we learned before, you know, making this, that, moled... moled reiach. Okay. Now, so here we learned an interesting halacha, that moled, stam, stam to make good smell is good, but to do it into the beged becomes asur, okay? What does that mean? First you have, let's say, something that right now you can't smell anything. So I'm allowed to scrape it, it's good. You're allowed to do it. It doesn't mean that if you can't smell anything, you can't scrape it. It's only if you put smell a little bit to make it smell more. No, no, I'm allowed to scrape the atzei besamim, but to take it and put it onto clothing, and we're soon going to learn even to put it on becomes asur. Why? This is called moled reiach b'beged, okay? Now I want to be medaik an interesting diyuk just to begin, because, you know, we always have to learn the Mishnah Berurah, then we can start moving further. K'dei sheyabeged meriach. You hear what I want? Let's say you want it for yourself. That's exactly the point. Let's say you want to do for yourself. So we're going to learn about this. So guf anyways mutar. We're going to learn about this. I'm going to talk later on at the end of the shiur what happens if I put it on my beged and my kavonah really is my guf. No. Maybe I want the beged to smell. Maybe the beged stinks. The beged has a bad smell. We're going to learn about having a bad smell. Maybe it's not even aser when someone has a bad smell. The point being, the diyuk in the Mishnah. The diyuk in the Mishnah Berurah is klar: kedei sheyabeged. It's about the beged being meriach ta'iv, that's a problem, okay? So stam to make good smell, it's not aser. If I want to smell from the atzei besamim, but to go and put it into a beged, then it becomes aser. Now, rabosai, let's take a look at the Sha'ar HaTziyun, siman קטן ט״ז. Now this Sha'ar HaTziyun bothered me for years. For years and years I have a problem with the Sha'ar HaTziyun. V'chein litein shpringnrad, okay? Shpringnrad is, I guess, a type of—gives smell, good smell—wear, v'ochlin into the food, meile derech, so it's aser, mutar. Cheretz mashma it's aser, right? He's saying that just like by the beged it's aser, so if I put something to give a good smell in a food, it's also aser. That's what it says. Who's he quoting? The Pri Megadim, b'shem the Chacham Tzvi. I looked up this Pri Megadim b'shem the Chacham Tzvi. Actually, Pri Megadim b'shem Chacham Tzvi is matir. That's teshuva. The teshuva is that it's mutar. Now, unless maybe, maybe he's just saying that it's also a case. But the lashon from the Mishnah Berurah is, b'ochlin it's me'lei re'ach, mashma that it's aser. The implication of the Mishnah Berurah is that it's aser. L'choira, right? But if you look at the Chacham Tzvi, it's clear. Now, I did find the mekor that it's aser, because I did a lot of homework on this little shaila; it bothered me. I found Rabbi Yainis Naftshitz, and by the way, there's a lot of Rabbi Yainis Naftshitz on the sugya of me'lei re'ach. In Madanei—I'm sorry, Bina Le'itim, Hilchos Yontif, perek daled, halacha vav—he takke says it's aser to put into food. You're not allowed to put into food something which is me'lei re'ach. You know, sometimes you want to have a strong cherry smell. Make it should have a strong cherry smell, just like you want to have a nice color, you want to have a strong good cinnamon smell. Yeah, right. Sometimes you want a cinnamon smell, right? See, the truth is, I was thinking in the case—I'm not so baki—but in my mind it's true. Or you don't feel that somebody doesn't care about cherry smell or a cinnamon smell. I can't say I've come across it. You haven't come across it so much, huh?

Maybe mashke should have a good smell. Yeah. No. For me, I've never—it's not something that I ever... You know what spingrad, I think, is, by the way? Ginger. That's what I think. I think so. Spingrad must be ginger. Ginger has a very strong smell, ginger. Anyways, al kol panim, so if I put spingrad b'ochlim, right, what do you say? Reb Yitzchak, it's mashma in the Shaar HaTziyun that you're not allowed to do it. You look at the Pri Megadim, which I think it's a good idea, you should do it tomorrow. You look up the Pri Megadim. That's quoting the Chacham Tzvi. Actually, there it says that it's mutar. But l'maaseh, Reb Yehoshua Leibshitz asers it. L'choira Mishnah Berurah seems to say it's asur. Okay. How about adam? So we just learned beged is asur, ochel is asur, l'choira the Shaar HaTziyun. How about b'adam? So there's an interesting Mishnah Berurah, kuf chaf ches se'if katan chaf gimmel. Go ahead, let's see the Mishnah Berurah. Kuf chaf ches, not kuf—kuf chaf ches. Yeah, siman kuf chaf ches. Yeah. Mishnah Berurah comes and says that it's mutar, that there's no din of molid reiach b'adam. No din of molid reiach b'adam. Kuf chaf ches, se'if katan chaf gimmel. Okay, what does it say over there? Balm oil. They put like a good-smelling oil into the water. Right, so that's a tovel. So let me just tell you, it's a tremendous sugya. That sugya is that the kohanim want to wash their hands. See, you want it to smell good. This is avodas Beis Hamikdash, yeah? So they put a good flavor into the water, okay? A good smell into the water. So what's the halacha? They're allowed to put it on. Why are they allowed to use that water? Go ahead, nu, vaz ist the Mishnah Berurah? Yeah, so there's two sugyas. One is putting it into the water. That's one problem, putting it into the water, because now you're giving flavor to the water. And there's another problem: now that the person puts the water on his hands, he's making himself smell good. So what's the halacha? Chav gimel, chav gimel. No, no. What about to put it on the person? Yeah, v'vadai yesh... after... on their hands. That you can be meikil, okay? And the person himself puts something... The shaila is to put it into the water. So what do you do? You put it Erev Shabbos. Okay, that's what you do. If you had it there Erev Shabbos, it's difficult to make. This is one of the most famous sugyas, you know. The kohanim need their hands to smell good. What, first? First of all, I'll tell you the truth. I thought about it once. Could be the water smelled bad to begin with, and I hold it's a big part of the sugya, by the way. It's not that you want that it should smell good, you know, that you should have perfume, so to speak, but that the water probably was mechur. And it's very shayach. You're arriving here against the lebra. What do you mean? About a perfume. Yeah, l'chaira. Maybe the hands, or unless you say another nekudah. Maybe it has to do with avodah, the kohen, he's going up to duchen. Not clear. It's not clear. You know, it's very shayach, you'd see that the water, they reused it in the shuls. The kohanim go and wash their hands. So the Mishnah Berurah says that it's a shaylah. It goes back very early. It's a Taz and a Magen Avraham, and they're quoting, I think, a Maharil. It goes back real early. This shaylah: are you allowed to put besamim, are you allowed to put a smell into the water like this, the kohanim, when they wash, they have a good smell. So there's two problems. One is the water, and one is the hands of the kohanim. So the Mishnah Berurah says, don't worry about the hands of the kohanim, because on the person it's no problem. So you could come and say mouthwash. A person wants to use mouthwash, which has good smells, chveisvas, mint, and all the good things, should be mutar. If a person wants to put on perfume on his body, it should be mutar, right? Reb Shimon Eider.

Brings down from a Moisha that he heard from a Moisha. There's a few parts of what he heard from a Moisha. I just want to—we'll cut it up, because it's, again, this part of the adam, that adam is mutar. It's in the sefer. We're not in the sefer. Perfume. He talks about perfume. He says perfume and the odorants and this and that. So he says he heard directly from a Moisha that you're allowed to put perfume. So, mistama this is American pask. Okay, perfume. Shay. How about to put into the water? It's a different sugya. Okay, so l'choira it would be mutar to put mouthwash, and l'choira it would be mutar to put on perfume. But I have a shayla. Let's say you want to wipe your mouth afterwards, after you use the mouthwash. You're gargling, and then you want to take a towel. Do you have a problem of molid reiach on the towel? That's a shayla I want to ask. Oh, see, you're driving into a good sugya. So you would come and say that it has to do with the ... davar she'eino miskavein. I don't want to put the perfume into the clothing, into the towel. Wait a minute. I'm going to tell you one step more. It's not—and don't forget, it's derabbanan. It's like a gezeirah type of derabbanan. Molid reiach, it's nireh k'misaken. It's not a real de'oraisa. It's nothing, right? It's a davar she'eino mechavein, and it's a derabbanan efshar. I'm going to go one step further. It's nothing to do with the regular halachos of davar she'eino miskavein. There's a special din by molid reiach that a davar she'eino miskavein is mutar. The whole issur was only when you're mechaven to do it. It's not pshat—what? Yeah, you know where. What? Kedei lariach. Aha, aha, that's already a diyuk. If, again, I good to shine, yeah, because miretter, the Mishnah Berurah brings down that you're not allowed to put into the clothing any smell. It's also to put smell into the clothing. So we're clarifying what happens if it's not clothing. What happens if it's adam? You want to put on a person perfume. So we learned to Mishnah Berurah, kuf chaf ches, that by the shuls they used to put the smells into the water when the kohanim washed their hands for duchening. And it's mutar, says the Mishnah Berurah, because you could be somech that for adam it's not a problem. So, chayim, when you come and you use mouthwash or you put on perfume, it's mutar, right? What happens if I want to wipe my mouth afterwards? So then it goes into the clothing. So that's a chashash of beged. So here you say, Hey, they're taining good. Yeah, it's, they are miskaven. I agree with you, and it's only derabbanan, the gzeirah, it's not halacha, it's de'oraisa. It's a gezeirah derabbanan, and on that you're not a mechaven, so what are you doing already? Yeah? Okay. It's nothing to do with the regular din derabbanan. In molid reiach, rabosai, there's a halacha that has to be mechaven to be molid reiach. I'll show you where I got this from. Take a look at tof reish nun ches, a very, very interesting Rambam. Beautiful Rambam. You know, the esrog smells טוב. The Rambam says you're not allowed to take an esrog and put it down on a beged. Why? Because it's molid reiach. I.e., you're mechaven. I.e., it's eino mechaven. Ayetzei noi mechaven. Ayetzei noi mechaven. Why is it nicholei? ... It's not ... it's a Rabbanan. It's nothing. What is it? Taf reish nun ches. You're not allowed to take your esrog and put it down on a beged. Yatza meisha. I told him over in Tzantasach. You look at perfume. Only the American gedolim, the American sefarim talk about perfume. In Eretz Yisrael, the sefarim you don't find it. Yeah, so they hold it's asur, but all the American—Rav Aharon says he spoke to Rav Moshe. Rav Moshe says, ... you're allowed to put perfume on Shabbos. ... Odor is a little different. You know, rabosai, let's pay attention. I have a lot to teach you. There's a lot. It's a tremendous big sugya. You go slowly, you'll enjoy it. You go slowly, you'll enjoy it. You know what? For those that didn't have to catch up, didn't have to catch up, learn the sugya, I'm telling you, you'll enjoy it. Shin chaf beis, okay? סעיף קטן ה. סעיף ה. Do the Mishnah Berurah quickly, quickly. Snell, snell, snell. ... Shin chaf beis, hey. The most important thing is ... innovative, ... is gevaldik.

So it says over there that you want to make, smell is good, right? You make machin moilo, you're taking psamim and you're making, scratching it, das megmentan, says the Mishnah Berurah, but not into the clothing. You see the Mishnah Berurah? Siman קיט. But not into clothing, okay? Right? You see the Mishnah Berurah? Not into clothing. You take a look at—oh, we're going to talk in two minutes. You go there and let them catch up quickly. Now look at the Shaar HaTziyun, Shaar HaTziyun, se'if katan tezayin, hu hadin b'oichlim. He brings a case of oichlim, right? Zingerat, so maybe, I think it's ginger or something. Spinger, I think it's ginger. Okay, you put it—says it's asur. The Velt says ein b'oichlim. You want to know something? All the sefarim bring it down, it's a pele, that it's mutar. I went crazy because of the halacha, I went crazy. I thought you're going to tell me you know the halacha. Okay, so quickly, do this Shaar HaTziyun. So the emes is, I looked up the Chacham Tzvi. The Chacham Tzvi says it's mutar. I don't know what this Mishnah Berurah is referring to. למעשה, Rav Yonason Eibshitz, in his sefer Bina LeItim, says klal that it's asur to be me'oled reiach b'oichlim. So I don't know how to be machria, you know, between the Chacham Tzvi and Rav Yonason Eibshitz. You can be machria between the Chacham Tzvi and Rav Yonason Eibshitz? I don't know. But this is, this is this—remember this Shaar HaTziyun, because the Velt is going to write that it's mutar. That's not what the Shaar HaTziyun learned up. The Shaar HaTziyun learned up what din, right? L'choira, unless it's something, just he's giving you a mareh makom that he talked about oichlim, I don't know. But even the chacham tzvi, what do you mean? It's a different kid, so he's not learning it good. You're right, he's not learning it good. Let's go on to the next thing. Likutei, it's something else. The Pri Megadim—this is a שער הציון is mashma klar. The שער הציון is klar that it's asur b'hana'ah. I don't know, I'm not sure, but one thing for sure, I don't know, you can be cholek on him for a שער הציון, right? Yeah? Would you do it after the שער הציון? I don't know. The matir, I don't know. The book says it's mutar, there's no problem. I don't see what they do with that. All right, anyways, ... What's this? It's mashma klar, ... It's clear, it's ... Yeah, R' Meisha, nu? You don't see the שער הציון? Maybe he's too tight. ... he put it for taste, not for smell. ... It says clearly you do for smell, it's asur. ... I'm not—of course it's mutar. I'm telling you, they say there's no ... by ... That's how you do it for the reiach. It's mutar. I don't know, ... is already too late for me, earlier. Okay, the kids, nothing יותר. ... English ... already is not for me. Okay, let's go weiter, yeah? The ... Huh? I didn't touch the English book. I use the Hebrew one. You should know, rabosai, I was up all night. I found the book from Rav Shach I never saw before. Some imrei ... Reb Lezer or something. What a sefer. Come fall asleep. And if you see the real stories, and you saw talmidim saying over, and this is אחרון. It's haflah. Okay, b'kitzur. Now, b'adam, you hear? B'adam. So in kuf chav ches, the Mishnah Berurah says clearly, b'adam. What's the halacha b'adam? There's a lot to look. So in kuf chav ches, Mishnah Berurah says it's mutar. They used to put besamim into the water, okay? So I'm sure the truth is that it's kedai to be choiker what this means. The water was dirty, and that's why they put—they used to put for the kohanim in the water, they used to put the smells. Yeah? Kuf chav ches, se'if katan chav gimmel, yeah, yeah, by birchas kohanim. Kuf chav ches, se'if katan chav gimmel. They used to put besamim, and he says it's mutar, because even though the water might be a she'eilah, the putting it into the water is a she'eilah, but for the adam, for the adam...

That's okay, because you can be meikel that there's no meileh derech b'adam, okay? So l'choira, according to this, mouthwash is mutar, and then perfumes are mutar, huh? Because that wasn't the Chazal's takanah. It's only b'beged. We're learning it here. Only b'beged. It's not to do with the mishkan. It's not to do with the mishkan. It's a special takanah. It's a special Rabbanan meileh derech, because it's called yitzur, you're creating something, okay? So the shaila only is, the shaila only is, what happens afterwards, you hear? So, what's the shaila if I want to wipe my mouth afterwards? And soon it'll clear with you a different shaila. Let's say I want to put it on myself, and the beged gets from it. I'm putting the perfume on myself, and the beged gets from it. You're missing, you're missing a beis. What happens if I put the perfume on myself, and because of that the beged gets from it? It's always, right? So what's about that? Only mesasek. She says it's even less. You're saying, but wiping my mouth is worse. Okay, okay. No, I'm saying putting it on the undershirt. Okay, okay. But this is the shaila. These are the two shailas. So, rabosai, I showed them, you don't have to come on to the halacha of Rabbanan, eino mechaven. It could be the only issur in such a case. Let's do the Ramban. The Ramban, tof reish nun ches, סעיף... what's סעיף? Is it over there? סעיף ב', yeah, to the esrig, yeah. Go ahead, nun, that you're not allowed to put the esrig down. Oh, so you see clearly, not mechaven. You're not mechaven, and still it's asur, okay? Now the— yeah. This is a very important word. Keep this in mind, because we're going to see a whole shtickel halacha based on the lomdus. It's getikun mane. Getavlik, getavlik. So meila it's not— we'll soon learn. It's about tikun mana, okay? So l'choira, I want to point out something very interesting. You know, if you didn't know this Rama, if you didn't know this Rama and this Mishnah Berurah that comes out that it's taka to be machmir— Mishnah Berurah says it's machlokes and he says you should be machmir— in Hilchos Shabbos he's meikel on it, you know that? It's mashma that he's meikel. In Shin chaf alef, se'if katan chaf hei, we learned this. He talks about— go ahead, Shin chaf alef, se'if katan chaf hei— he talks about smashing into your clothing pilpelin. But how do you have it? They used to put the pilpel inside like a beged, and they used to crush it. Go ahead, Nu. Se'if katan chaf hei. A pilpelin? Beged. They used to take like a cloth, like a sock or something. Yeah? Go ahead. So wait a minute, the Mishnah Berurah is mashma he's meikel. And over here— and over here— the two Mishnah Berurahs are nit tazei. Does mashma, the first one is in tof reish lamed ches. Good, beish mekilin, but over here it's mashma more that he's matir it. The Taz was chozer, p'sak machmir, then אז is כמעט mutar, no? It says, b'shaas hadchak, she'ein makom mishum... So from Shin chaf alef, what's— Yitzi, if you see Shin chaf alef... Let me ask you a shaila. You know sometimes they take the soup greens... What? The soup greens, the soup, the dill. In the old days they used to take the dill and put it into like a gauze, a net, a net. Isn't that a problem? Isn't that a problem? Soup, do you have Shabbos? Yeah, that's when they used to do it, on Erev Shabbos. Erev Shabbos, no problem. Sure. But al kol panim, shin chaf aleph is klal. Shin chaf aleph, you have the mudach. So you're not allowed to... shin chaf aleph, סעיף קטן כ״ה. In the Mishnah Berurah's mashma that it's mutar kimat, yeah? Chazar bo, yeah? Does it mashma, nit azoi. All right. Okay, let me tell you a gevaldige chiddush, chiddush nifla. You ready? What was the case of beged in Bavel? What was the story in Ezra? Regular beged? What about what we have today, in these...

They put like a straw or whatever they put over there, flax. Mishnah talks about it, vav, see, cut vav. Mishnah talks about it. He says, why is it mutar? He says a vart: it's only mutar because you already did it from before, so the reiach is there already anyways. Mashma, if you put a new one—let's say you take a new one that was never used. So I'm trying to tell you, so siv katan vav is mashma the whole heter is only because you already used it, siv katan vav. Mashma if it's a new one, if it's a new one it would be asur, yeah? Is that a beged? Is that a beged, beged? If it's tikun mana, where's the tikun mana? Does it have to be mana, mana? So maybe, maybe, maybe when it's taka pishtan, it has shayches to beged, or maybe mana means kli, any kli. So what happens if it's just like a styrofoam, huh? Yeah, they put styrofoam under the esrog. Would that be nichlal in tikun mana with a smell? You know, they stop—I'm saying, what's this? It's tikun mana. You're doing something. What's two factors? You get something out of that? You get something out of styrofoam? So you would say, vas is lav davka, mana is lav davka anything, yeah? Maybe mana is tikun mana, no? If it's something which is not shayach to tikun mana, mashma tikun mana is, it's not moiled reiach. The takanah of moiled reiach is teireh vas in mana, yeah? I once brought a raya, yeah. I once brought a raya. I'm not— I can't fathom, there's no theory, you have to say it's more or less מסתבר. I don't know if it's chazan. I don't know, he's bringing the taz, I don't know what it is. I mean, you can play with it. Dear, here is klaf. Here's not so klaf, okay? I want to be gevaldige raya. Would it be shayach tikun maneh, moiled reiach on a lulav? I take the lulav and the esrog and I put it together. Vazogst es? Zu zogst a shtus, yeah? You hold it's a shtus. You're gonna get it over the head in a minute. It's not a garment, not a cloth. So who declared cloth? Dos kler? It's begging. It's not koilet; it's not this, ezogt nisht koilet and ezogt nisht. It's begging and ezogt nisht. The bikur Yankiv on this halacha says you're not allowed put the lulav and esrog scraping together, moiled reiach. What about a daf? What do you have to do? He must have had special love, cloth. I definitely... You have to have tikun maneh. It's on the lulav. Why? Because tikun maneh is something that you're moiled a reiach. You're doing something, you're making the beged better. You make it a little better because it smells, it smells... esrog, man. You see that this far, that moiled reiach is on anything. Why is reiach? Not on a person. I love it. There's a reason. Say this is the vort. It's not... I always clarified what's moiled reiach. There's a stam issur of moiled reiach, or could be it's tikun of the maneh, which means the maneh is better. So if it's not something which shayach to tikun mana, and the lulav is better because it has good smell now, it's shayach to tikun mana. It's some other, some other thing, yeah? This is the chakirah. If it's tikun mana, why would it be on something which isn't a mana? If it's stam melech. Now give me an example. If it's the mana, so it has to be something which shayach to tikun. You're fixing the... the beged smells better. Oh yeah, it smells better. It's a better lulav, yes. I'm saying, in a beged, it's about the smell, the fact that you put a smell on it. Put a smell. It's something that should be chal a smell. Moiled rei'ach is aser as a chalzai, for example. What happens if I want to be moiled rei'ach into the air? Aerosol spray. What's lachus? It's a big sugya. It's a... I heard from Rav Belsky, but then I see a Rav Aharon. Rav Aharon brings down from Rav Moshe. He asked Rav Moshe, and Rav Moshe said the same Gemara, Chaf gimmel, that you're allowed to do it, because the issur is into something.

How do you go? ... How it goes? ... Meleilah. That's the meleilah. I know it's gonna fall on the floor, on the carpet. It's a meleilah. Who said meleilah? I sprayed it not into the clothing; I sprayed it into the air. So if I sprayed it into the air, it's mutar, yeah? So what's the pshat? Because there's no tikun mana. But the pshat is it didn't go into anything, so it's not really molid reiach. You're not transferring the reiach to something else. Thus, ... It's a fine line in the sugya: is the issur to be molid reiach, or is the issur of tikun mana? Okay, now I'm gonna show you ... the halacha. You have to ... You hear? Come. So let's say I go, I put it on the person, yeah, and memeila it goes on the beged. But I didn't put it. I didn't put it. But l'maaseh, did I do tikun mana? So you want to say it's like grama, like this, like grama. How about the other way around? My kavanah is me, and grad I put it on the beged. Yeah, sometimes you spray it, spray it on. That's how women do. Women just spray ... Not the beged; it's you, but that's how they spray on the beged, no? Yeah. Is it a din in the takanah? The takanah was only in such an oifen, that I do it into a beged? Or it's a tikun mana? And here I'm not mechaven for the beged. You told me eino mechaven is mutar. Maybe it's mutar. Write it down. If you learn eino mechaven v'mutar, you just learned it. So if you're mechaven for yourself and Grady goes on the beged, so you tell me if I put it on myself and it went on the beged b'meila, that's... So what about if it's not b'meila? Because I spray, I'm sure it was... That is mechaven to put it on the beged. That's called mechavenot. No, no, no, no. I'm mechaven for myself. I'm telling you I'm mechaven for myself. Mechaven that you should smell good, but you're not mechaven that it should go on. There are people who put deodorant over the clothing because they think it's very unhealthy, so it's like a chatzitza. Yeah, but their kavanah still should be on the clothing. It's not the clothing. The kavanah is not that the clothing should smell, but they're still mechaven to put it on the clothing. It's not so pashut. If my kavanah is me, and I spray it all over, what about if, you know what, you don't like it, machmit the henchain. Okay, you know what, do I have to, if I put on the spray, do I have to, like, make sure it doesn't touch the clothing at all? No, okay. Oh, it does. You're masking? That's what I tell you. Okay, so what I'm saying is fine. If you thought what I'm saying, then you like that, that's what I'm saying. I thought it grew up on me. I started being machmir. But only on yourself and not the clothing. Yeah, everyone knows the purity, right? But then I always... goes on the undershirt. Yeah, it says there it's not mechaven for the undershirt. Shchayt, shchayt. See, look, see, mutar, basically. Mechaven. Let's see if you get some on it. Shasat chatz. Okay, good. And that's also when you do it on the beged. You do it directly on the beged. What's pshat by adam that it's mutar? Why is it mutar on adam? You do it directly on the beged. All right. If you do it on the adam and Grady goes on the beged, it's shchayt, shchayt, ha'gevaldig psak halacha. See, he was machmir. He started going there with a ruler to make sure it doesn't... Doesn't go on his club. Yeah, Springfield had the... Okay, good, good, good, my cousin. Okay, you ready? Afterwards, afterwards. These things, when I'm in the middle of a heated argument about moiled reiach, you can't talk about Yerushalayim. Afterwards, afterwards. No undershirts. Now we're learning. Now, I want to throw into the sugya what the poskim talk about, which you're not going to find in the Mishnah Berurah. This, like always, this is where the teshuvos come in, rabosai. And you have to know the Mishnah Berurah wasn't—it's interesting—you have to know how to shtell tzug the hamoleket teshuvos together with the Mishnah Berurahs. When can we be meikel as a snif al kol panim? It's a snif. Not put down the Mishnah Berurah, but there's a yayvetz. The Yavetz, chelek aleph, siman beis, says that where the kavanah is not to be moiled reiach, but to take away bad reiach, there's no issur. Period, there's no issur. Beged, oichel, beged, whatever it is, if the kavanah is not to be moiled reiach, but rather to...

Meisir reiach, then it's mutar. You're not trying to make a good smell; you're trying to cover up a bad smell. Even though in lomdus of tikun mana, you're tikun mana, you fix it, no? So what's it, to wait till it gets smelly before? Lu yotzur, a guy has a sweated-up jacket. Spray it up. Spray it up. You can't do it beforehand. Bishlama if it's clean... ...frighten at night by Kabbalas Shabbos, anybody should notice him. Das ken zayn azos. Fargayve un farmoyled reiach. Reiach ra, farmoyled reiach. We're going to learn about reiach ra. Is it reiach, any reiach, or reiach tov or reiach ra included? We're going to learn this in a few minutes, okay? But al kol panim, you have to throw into the mix the yavetz chelek aleph. So remember this. Remember this, the Yavetz. You know where it's also nogea? I hold it's very nogea. A lot of people are afraid to flush the toilet because they have the good smells over there. So first there's sfiya problems; it turns blue, and they have it. And then also the smell, yeah? You have the yavetz, vas tat tzerend, yigrama. What you're doing is you're... The water, the blue? Yeah. Maybe you make tzvia. Tzvia is not... It's water, it's toilet water. It's toilet pas. So it's gone. No, yeah, but that's bad tzvia. That's bad tzvia, and that's also... It's a very big she'eilah. They asser it, you know that. That's a... Tell me, so what's wrong with the yavetz? It's to be meiled reiach. Now, lefi zeh, why? That's what you said. And who said that originally? Me said it. See, that's why I started the sugya. What's the pshat in the mayim of the Kohanim? If you learn the mayim Kohanim is just to give them a good smell, zeh, but if it's mayim achurim, why would they put—I don't understand—why are they putting in the water of the shul good-smelling water? You want to explain to me why? If you wash your hands, I have to put something that the water should smell good. You ever saw anybody do that? I'm asking you a question. Do you ever saw anybody do that? No. Do I put perfume there that the water that you wash from the sink should smell good? Why not? Why not? Why not? Because it's water. ... How do you learn Kuf-Ches? ... It's like a mikveh; you're putting perfume into a mikveh, huh? An afkamina. ... Ken zayin, ken zayin, the mayim achurim. Okay, now, it's different. It's not meant. It could be that in such a case it's different. Could be it's different, and the Mishnah Berurah says that it's asur; we're asering it. Okay. Okay. Now, is the issur, is the issur a beisai? No. Is the issur reiach tov, or is the issur any reiach? Is the issur reiach tov? No, rabosai. Is the issur reiach tov, or is the issur any reiach? If it's mayled reiach, it's different. It's mayled reiach, hana'ah zach. But if the pshat is tikun mana, so l'choira if it's reiach ra, it shouldn't be good. Yeah? Maskin? In lomdus. Okay. How about into water? So we just learned that there's a problem, right? We just learned this Mishnah Berurah. So let's say I want to take a bisale, yeah, mei baisim or something. For example, they used to have—it's interesting, you guys don't even know what it is. I remember in Eretz Yisrael, the mouthwash came in a little green bottle, Tipot, because you're an Eretz Yisraeldiker. You don't understand. Everything I remember as a kid, you guys are looking at me. Moshe saw it because Moshe was an Eretz Yisraeldiker. They used to have a green bottle. Remember that green bottle? I didn't know if your mouth smelled better before or after. Das is a kemush gevus. And also it was soyrev. You remember it was mamash soyrev? Shreklach, shreklach what they used to use for— You remember those green drops? Remember those green drops? My mother's an Eretz Yisraeldiker. Because he can't get off, he can't use anything else. It's a green little bottle. Put the Tipot into the water. So what do you do? Mei baisim. Put a straight into your mouth. That's what they do, right? Shmiras Shabbos k'hilchasa says you're allowed to do it. Come in. Go ahead.

Oh, so we spoke this last week. Last week we spoke that a missing kareles and all the yeshivos and gedolim asur without a septic. I told you it's a peldik. What's an antiseptic? We spoke last week, you use mouthwash. We said that mouthwash without antiseptic is asur, but without because it's medicine. I asked you a kasha: what's the difference between that and toivel pita b'ma... b'chometz? You want to explain it to me? It's not medicine. In the mouthwash they put an antiseptic. Maybe, maybe l'stirah the whole thing is that, but pashut if they have scope with antiseptic, in the scope is antiseptic, so it's mutar. That's toivel pita. That's a פירוש ההלכה, that if I take medicine and I dilute it into something else, it's mutar. What? Treif is a different sugya. It's different. I'm just saying, l'choira it's mutar. I understand the whole... All right, but the gedolim say it's asur, don't do it. Okay, now, scope without antiseptic. The Mishnah says it's asur. Reb Shlomo Zalman says it's a safek. Reb Shlomo Zalman is mesupak, because he doesn't know killing germs is a refuah. That's the problem. What's killing germs? Oy vey, oy yoy yoy yoy. You help, you help that pesek for... I love you dearly, but don't ever say that again. You know when you eat and when you sleep and when you breathe, you're killing germs, you know that? Every ear has germs in it. It comes into your body, how it gets the germs? There's no issur of tzichah on something which isn't... Yeah, tzichah, but it says, why is it refuah? You're breathing, it's refuah. This is refuah. You're taking something which is refuah. I'm breathing because it's refuah. Okay, it's gone. You know, you know who's... You have to. I see those... Don't breathe. Don't breathe this. I think you ask me a better question. How could you ever breathe if you're taking in treifes? There's germs in the air, there's bugs. ... He says you can't see it. That's his raya. Anything you can't see is mutar. That's his raya. You know, it's so funny because I'm talking like as if it's... I mean, I see, this is the aleph-beis of the sugya of bugs. By the way, tomorrow I'm going to go through the bugs in the fish. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, so Shabbos, I was away for Shabbos. I was away for Shabbos. No, because people came to ask me. First, I didn't know I was famous. No, but I didn't know anybody cares what I have to say. I went in there, and guys are coming over to me, I want to ask you a shaila. I know, for Rav Felder. Someone told me for Rav Felder. Rav Felder got up and said that it's... Listen to me. Tomorrow, tomorrow... Don't mind. He spoke to... Ah, ah. So tomorrow, im yirtzeh Hashem, I'm going to go through... What's the ducks? What's the problem with ducks today? Why? Because they don't have mesorah? What? Ducks don't have mesorah? Turkeys is a she'eilah; they don't have mesorah. Ducks also? Okay, I'll look into it. You guys give me the shailas, la la la la la. It's a peldige thing. You don't see, the whole Shabbos people came over about this thing, and I'm like, so what do you want me to say? But I didn't think anybody cares what I have to say. Everything's awesome. Any fish might have these bugs. No, it's not any fish. It's only certain fish. You know what? Let me not—I'm not talking. I'm not talking until I— Okay. When I get the facts straight. Wild salmon. It's not farm. Not farmed fish. Not pollution. Wild fish. From China. Rebbe, wild fish. I stand by it from my heart. This guy, not the politician. Many of these politicians, because wild salmon—have wild salmon. I come from the business. Wild salmon is much more expensive. Why? Because it comes from the sea. Wild salmon, yeah. And the regular salmon comes from the Brecha, because Brecha is fine. Wild certified. You ever go to Brecha? As I take you. ... בעולם נמצאים באותו בריכה. ... לא. I'm gonna look into it, okay? Listen, trust me. More than five people came over to me to ask me.

Five people. It must have been six or seven people came over to me. What are you holding by fish? What are you... I couldn't understand what they want from me. I heard someone told me recently, some, he mentioned to me, and I... fish. Taanis she'ein fish. You know, the oilam likes this. Let's finish this, because this is a sheines sugya. I'm teaching you good sugya, you hear? Shmiras Shabbos k'hilchasa, perek yud-daled, ha'arah kuf beis. Says Rav Shlomo Zalman that there's no problem, perek yud-daled, ha'arah kuf beis, says Rav Shlomo Zalman that there's no problem with moiled in noylad. I'm waiting to talk to you in noylad and noylad, and you're going to give me chaburas with the shiur, okay? After, we're already, we're in the sugya of moiled and noylad, okay? The kitzur, Rav Shlomo Zalman says that the issur of moiled is not an issur when it's diluting. When you dilute something—I'm going to start ma'ariv in a second, we'll start ma'ariv in a second, okay?—but, compellent, you know, you want to spray. What's called repellent—I'm sorry, not compellent, repellent, yeah? You spray that the bugs should go away. So if you spray it today in the Shabbos, but if you want to spray it on a person, yeah, so on the person there's also no problem, we learned. What about on the clothing? So you say it's a problem. Let me ask you: it's a reiach tov, it's a reiach tov, it's a reiach... moiled reiach is tikun mana. It's not a reiach. Oh, so this is—so first of all, I don't know if the reiach, because, you know, the bugs are magish it. I don't know what they're being magish. When the bugs run away, they run away from the smell or from the chemical? Smell. So first you can come and say moiled reiach has to be something which is b'ein. Second, well, maybe it's a reiach ra, yeah? It's a chemical more than a reiach. What scares the moth, the smell not necessarily. That's what I'm saying. So it's a smell that they smell, or it's a chemical that... It's both. Chemical to have a smell. Yeah, the shaylah is, is there a problem of moled reiach with a bug repellent? L'choira it's not the reiach taiv, but I don't know, it's not clear. Is moled reiach have to be taiv dafka? It's a... some dilamdus that we spoke. Is it a din in the moled of the reiach, or is it a din in the tikun of the mana? A lulav, is there a problem of moled reiach in a lulav with the esrog? So you're saying it's a l'tzonus, the answer is, huh? The Pri Yankiv says... there's a problem. You're not allowed to touch the esrog, the lulav, moled reiach in the lulav. ... Let's go. ... You want to say a shtickel shiur on moled? ... Towards the end of the week. ... What? I just started the sugya. I just started. I'm talking moled, moled. I'm not doing beishinol. I'm saying... moled, moled reiach. Just something new. Yeah, but it's a... ...