Basar B’Chalav: The Essential Klalim of Issur Davuk, Chanan, Taam, and Bitul

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Now, I'm going to say what it is. You're going to read in the Shulchan Aruch. Your homework, so to speak, I guess you'll do most of it, is to make sure that you put the Shulchan Aruchs to each thing. Okay. The first thing you have to know about basar b'chalav is not siman pei-zayin, because that's the easy stuff. You know, basar b'chalav, basar, nah, gimel, you know. Okay. Isur davuk is the foundation of basar b'chalav. Isur davuk. What is isur davuk? Isur davuk means that when something gets attached to something, so the shishim is not כנגד the issur, but it's כנגד everything that's attached to the issur. So for milk to the meat, it's not just that spot. You need shishim now to the whole meat, because there's davuk. The issur is davuk. The issur is davuk. Now, you want to know what that's related to? It's related to chanan. That's the davuk and chanan. So actually what I would do is I would probably put isur davuk and chanan, one and two. All right? I'll do it for you eventually, okay? So again, isur davuk. Read. Go ahead. Siman tzadik beis, se'if gimel. Let's go. Tzadik beis. Tzadik beis. I know, I have tzadik. I fixed it. Tzadik beis. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Okay, I have a better idea. You know what I'm going to do? I'll tell you what we're going to do. I'm going to explain it all, and then what you're going to do—no, the truth is, should we do this just quickly inside? Would you be able to do fast enough that we should do all through all this today? Why not? It's going to take time to find everything. Okay, so then let me tell you that, and then tomorrow we'll review. I want you to—let's go. Okay. So isur davuk. The word—no, no, it has to move. Yeah. Isur davuk means that the issur is davuk, and when the issur is glued—and when it's glued, so we don't look at—we look at this sefer, the whole thing. So you need shishim כנגד everything. Who is this related to? This is related to chanan. How is it related to chanan? Chanan is chatichah נעשית נבילה. Because what does it mean? This becomes aser. So not just this, but the whole piece now becomes neveilah. So therefore, you need shishim keneged the whole piece. So this is chatichah na'asis neveilah. This is in siman צב. Your homework is to bring the Shulchan Aruch of this, okay? And chanan will be ten is really two. Here you go, see, it's in siman צב. I wrote it for you, siman צב, okay. Now, issur davuk is when— The minute you start slowing me down, I'm not going to be able to do seifim. We have to move. This is it. We'll get to it. Today is just, b'ezras Hashem, the inauguration day, all right? We're just going to go through it, shooting one after another. Am I wrong in what I said, or you have a kashya on what I said? I'm not sure. Okay, so you tell me what you think issur davuk is, and then I'll go weiter. Go ahead. Rebbe's saying that when milk falls on meat, that becomes an issur davuk, and therefore what? The milk is not going just against the piece that it's— the whole piece of meat is going to fight, right? Why would that be called issur davuk? I mean, there's times when it's not issur davuk. I mean, when it's separate. I mean, it's not attached. When the milk gets attached because it's balua into the thing, so now it's davuk. So you don't take shishim keneged just that issur, but the whole thing now becomes asur. I always thought issur davuk is a case like a chelev or something else that's attached to a piece of meat and got cooked with it, that we say that this chelev is going to attack this meat first, and then the rest of the pot. So you need shishim from what? Meaning that you don't have the whole pot that's going to attack the chelev; you're going to have just this meat that's going to fight the chelev. And if there's no shishim, then this whole piece is going to become— right? Or Rebbe's saying— Right, exactly what I said. Okay, so let's go weiter. So we're saying the same thing. Okay, efshar l'sochto. Yeah, yeah, okay, don't sleep. How is it different than chanan? I don't understand. It's not. It's one is talui in the other, and you'll soon see how one is connected to the other, which means when it's not davuk, then there's no chanan. Okay, davuk is it attaches itself, and therefore the next step is, chanan, hatichanas neveilah. Okay. Efshar l'sochto. Efshar l'sochto is in siman kavav and siman tzadi beis se'if daled, and that is that where the issur is able to be detached, I'm able to squeeze out this, then we undo the chanan. We're able to say, you know what, we'll attack the issur alone and not have the whole meat that comes with it. That's called efshar l'sochto. Okay. What does it negate? To bitul b'rov, yavesh b'yavesh, right? When you have yavesh b'yavesh, so it never attached itself, so then the bitul is...

What? Right, you have rov, so this becomes kosher. That's all talui in the same mechanics. Did it get attached? It didn't get attached. Did it get attached? It didn't get attached. So your rules are: issur davuk, techanan, te efshar l'sochtei, to bitul b'rov, yavish b'yavish. And this is siman kuf tes se'if aleph. All right? Okay. What is a davuk gush? A davuk gush is something which is a solid. A solid keeps its heat. There's a whole discussion about kli sheini and kli rishon. Davuk gush, if you put a davuk gush that's hot, it becomes like a kli rishon, and that's why you always have the problem. Why would you say it's cooling down? It cools down, and the answer is it's a davuk gush. Davuk gush, yes. When you have a solid, a solid that's hot, a piece of steak is a davuk gush. Any milk that falls on a piece of steak— but it's not a keli, a kli rishon, kli sheini, kli— it's not negea; it's a davuk gush. When it's a davuk gush, the rules of kli rishon, sheini, shlishi are not relevant. Not— but it's a rama, and you'll have to work on it separately. But this is at least you know the concept of a davuk gush. Rama siman צט סעיף ז. Next, davar ha-ma'amid. Davar ha-ma'amid is when something is there to make it and give it its stance, to give it a— it's like congeality, all right? That's the word of ma'amid. The halacha is, since it's chashuv, lo batel, and therefore rigliz gam v'chulei v'chulei have a nice day, okay? No. Whatever treif they put in there is davar ha-ma'amid; you can't say batel b'rov. How is it everything is davar ha-ma'amid? I don't know, but the lecithin and the gelatin and the— because it all congeals. It congeals to make the gum. That's the whole story there. Okay, davar ha-ma'amid, סעיפים פז. Rama. Next, davar charif. As Rav Adi Yosef said, once asked him at the thing, is he carrying anything sharp, sharp objects? Asked him at the airport. You know what he said? Ken, ha-lashon sheli. You wouldn't want to told me? Good stuff. All right, the point being, the point being, a davar charif in Yoreh De'ah has a lot of halachos, okay? One of its halachos is that it takes out old stuff. When it's charif, it's able to dig in and bring out old issues of basar b'chalav in a knife, all right? Now, charif the knife, charif the thing that you're cutting with. This is all in siman tzadi-vav, okay? Then there's—yeah, because it's charif b'tzad, not charif gamur, charif less charif, ayin sham, davar charif, yeah, the sugya of davar charif. Next, beriyah. Beriyah is in kuf yud, se'if aleph. Something which is a beriyah is lo batel. Beriyah lo batel. That's why tarfus, as long as if we talk about bugs, you really, really can't say bitul b'rov. There's no way, because beriyah is lo batel. Kuf yud? Kuf yud, se'if aleph. Kuf yud, se'if aleph, okay. Davar sheyesh lo matirin, also lo batel. Something that could be mutar later doesn't become mutar now. It's Maseches Gemaras in Beitzah, okay? This is in siman kuf beis, se'if aleph. Something which is ta'am k'ezuta, therefore taste, or it's there for what it looks like, chazuta, also lo batel. This is in kuf beis, se'if aleph. Chanan, I told you to put it on top, huh? To make it look nicer? Not to, to give it its color, something to give it its color. Eggs on top, right? Lo batel, okay. Tam k'ikar. Tam k'ikar, big sugya in basar b'chalav. The tam is like the ikar. You have a pot, it's just taste, flavors, bliyos, tam k'ikar, okay? Of course, through Avodah Zarah you learned it with the wine, the grapes, tam k'ikar, but it's nogea to basar b'chalav, that wherever there's tam, it's as if you have what? The ikar. I don't know why I didn't bring the din in Shulchan Aruch, but you'll find, okay. Nat bar nat. Tam k'ikar, what is tam k'ikar? That's what, tzadik vav. Okay, I think it's tzadik vav. Tam k'ikar, I'm almost positive. Maybe it's in three places. I think it's tzadik vav. Okay, next. Nat bar nat, you have it? So what's nat bar nat? Okay, so that's, as kids we grew up, nat bar nat. So let me tell you what nat bar nat is. So I give you a big yesod. A person could have an Ashkenazic plov. You want an Ashkenazic plov because you'll always remember it. You don't want to really put meat in, sorry, because you want it to be as cheap as possible, right? So what you do is you take a fleishige pot, you put some rice in there, dry rice.

Right? And you take out from the bliyos from the pot. That's a plov, not barnat Ashkenaz. That's an Ashkenazic not barnat. Okay, so let me explain to you. Not. Noisin tam, bar noisin tam. The meat gave tam into the pot, and then the pot gave tam into the rice, into the noodles. So now you have, with yoreh deah, you have an osar. Now this you'll never forget it for the rest of your life. You realize that you'll never forget this for the rest of your life. Not barnat, orshpalov. You knew what not barnat is? You knew what it was? And you knew that the rice was not barnat. You knew this, and you knew what the halacha of not barnat is: can I drink it with milk? I can't drink it with milk. Okay. Now, next halacha: noisin tam lifgam. And that is the sugya of eino ben yomo, which I'll bring you later. But noisin tam lifgam means something which is a day late is already... So, for example, if a guy says the same shtikel Torah, right, that he heard two days ago, that's called noisin tam lifgam. Okay? Why? Because that's the way it is. Ah, it's an old... That's not barnat, it's noisin tam lifgam. There you go. So noisin... not barnat would be ben yomo. It's only ben yomo. That's why I'm putting it. That's not barnat, and the next day becomes what? Noisin tam lifgam. So this is the yoreh deah siman kuf gimmel, se'if aleph. How about tatal gavar? If you don't know tatal gavar, okay, you can basically not learn yoreh deah. You might as well have a nice day and not even be busy with yoreh deah. So you're going to learn it. Okay, okay. So what's tatal gavar? Tatal gavar means the bottom wins. Who wins, the guy on top or the guy on the bottom? Tell them, in the world people think the guy on the top wins. Really, who wins? The guy on the bottom wins. Ilam hafuch, tata gavar, which means the milk you're putting on top is cold, the meat on the bottom is hot. So how do you know if the milk is becoming—the milk is ruining the meat? Maybe it's the other way around, that the meat... Which? The answer is the bottom wins. The bottom wins. The bottom wins. If it was the top, if the hot was on top and the cold was on the bottom, then you would have to take klipa. Then you would have the rule of ad d'ma'ikar lei. Once it's cooling off, it's bolea a little bit. So again, to Hilchos Shabbos, by the way. Now, if you're a real talmid chacham, if you're a real talmid chacham, you would learn Yoreh Deah Shabbos the same, almost like the same thing. Tata gavar is nogea for bishul on Shabbos. It's nogea for bishul on Shabbos. You put cold water on top of hot water, hot water on top of cold water. Maybe not, or maybe yeah, or maybe not, or maybe yeah, right? The lamdan would learn—I'm giving you good advice—the lamdan, if you want to learn the sugyas, it's Shabbos and basar b'chalav. It's nogea, kli rishon, kli sheini, davar gush, and cholent and beans, and ketchup on steak, ketchup on steak. It's all there, all there, all there, okay? You ready? Next. Tata gavar. Okay. Now, why don't we just take every basar b'chalav and put a little bit, yeah, a little bit, a bissel, a bissel, a bissel, Nathan's, a bissel milk, a little delicious, a little butter. And the answer is, ein mevatlin l'chatchila. You can't do it l'chatchila. It's only b'di'eved. What's called b'di'eved? Ah, piskei teshuvos, ein me'akev, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You're gonna be busy with what's called l'chatchila, not l'chatchila, right? You have to know because the kashrus organizations, you know, they're busy with it. What's really called l'chatchila, b'di'eved? It happened, they didn't know, he didn't know, he didn't know, he wouldn't know. Okay. Okay, l'chatchila. Okay, siman tzadik tes, siman tzadik tes, siman tzadik tes, siman tzadik tes, yeah, yeah. I mean, it has to do with if you know that there's bugs, then it's ein mevatlin l'chatchila. So you don't have fifteen, ein mevatlin l'chatchila. This is chozer. This is the overall thing. There's two versions. Let me tell you something. I do this at three in the morning, so that's what happens. So you have chozer. So let me just finish over here. Ein mevatlin l'chatchila. Okay, you'll make copies for the— Ein mevatlin l'chatchila, okay. Siman tzadik tes, here, se'if hei. How about issur d'rabbanan? Okay, could we say ein mevatlin l'chatchila by issur d'rabbanan? Siman tzadik tes, nice shaylah. Siman tzadik se'if vav, it's a machlokes. You have to see the machlokes. ... You have to see. Siman tzadik tes, se'if vav, that even by d'rabbanan we should be machmir. ... Look it up. Don't look in here. Look it up. ... Siman tzadik beis, se'if beis. So these all go together. Number fifteen, you see fifteen? Fifteen, shlosha shem echad. Okay, ein mevatlin l'chatchila.

Okay. I just told you what it is. If it's not that day, it doesn't hold. ... Kuf gimmel, סעיף ה'. Okay. How about—oh, I see, I put it here. I wonder what I put over here. Okay. So let's jump back to your sheets now. I see already what I did. Okay, let's come back to your sheets. What do you have over here? Chayzim v'neir. Okay. Can someone tell me what chayzim v'neir? ... All right, very good. I see. I see the olam likes. I see you read about Moshiach, and I see chayzim v'neir, Moshiach. I see the Lubavitcher chaver came to you on Simchas Torah. I see. Okay, I get it. Okay. They come to ...? My shul's too close for them. We're not to Lakewood. They walked to Arizona. Yeah, but they come to Lakewood. They're afraid of Lakewood. Okay, let's go back to here. Chayzim v'neir. I don't know this. I could just tell you, I could just tell you that I've run free. Like, whenever he talks to me, he says, 'You can't come to Lakewood.' Even him, he's like a sweetheart. They have this thing with Lakewood. Okay, so let's go back. Come, you ready? It's all nothing. Believe me, when you learn Yoreh Deah, all this is really nothing. When you're not learning Yoreh Deah, you'll be busy with this. People who are busy with shitas and people and zachin and this type of hat and this type of hat is because they're not learning. I'm telling you right now, Klorah. I'm telling you, baruch ... it's because they're not learning. Okay, now, chayzim v'neir. What does chayzim v'neir mean? Reawakens. So you have bittul, and then all of a sudden you drop another drop of milk in there. Guess what happens? Reawakens itself. That is siman tzadik tes, se'if vav, I think it is, in the Rama. Okay. How about Chanan b'shaar issurim? Is it only by basar b'chalav? Machlokes the Mechaber and the Rama. You gotta notice, you gotta notice. Chanan, is it by shaar issurim? A machlokes. Okay, so I brought you the Mareh Mekomos, yes. Chanan b'keilim? Yeah. Should we come and say the whole keli, chanan b'keilim? I say it's only touched a drop. Spread the whole keli? Chanan b'keilim, siman tzadik beis in the Rama, that we— no? Right. They're always machmir anyways. He's right, he's got a point. We say chanan b'keilim, yes. They always are machmir anyways. איכה, what's it there? Makes him happy, say yes. Okay. All right, he said a racist joke. He wants you to like it. He wants to say it. Okay, yes, good, very good, excellent. Chatichah haruyah l'hiskabed, you hear? Chatichah haruyah l'hiskabed. Okay, now, number 18, 19, and 20 are all cases where we don't say bitul. We don't say bitul, okay? One is chatichah haruyah l'hiskabed. So this is a machlokes, Shach and the Sefard. By Sefard, the rule is kabed, it has to be a whole cow. By the Rama, it's with the binoculars. I think I see it. I think I see the piece of chicken in there. I see it, I see it, okay. That's chatichah haruyah l'hiskabed. Okay. So Chanan of siman קו״ו, se'if vav, what's wrong? It's beautiful, I'm happy. Wonderful, it's all good. Okay. How about if we say these jokes in public? No, it's not. It's only I could say it. You guys can't say this. I'm telling you, you can't say it. I could say it because it's so ruchni from me, the reality of it. Nobody has a hava amina that I don't love every Jew. There's no such thing. It's just not shayach. I could say this in Lakewood and I get away with it. I say whatever, I get away with it. It's so baruch because I spend my days helping every Jew. Okay, yeah? You know, I want to tell you that I had a friend, a close friend of mine, a talmid chacham muflag. I mamash was like a brother to him. He once told me a saying. By Chassidim, I mean, the shveres complains against them. It was never the same since. I look at him and I go, something's wrong. That makes sense. What are you saying? Everybody has problems. Everybody's not... Okay, next. Davar chashuv, go ahead. A davar chashuv is not batel unless he's the rov, okay? Shulchan Aruch, what? Everybody's not a rov.

Okay, go ahead. Davar chashanar, kuf yud, siman aleph, davar chash. Next one. Davar shebeminyan. I think of a minyan. You want me to make jokes about that? I got jokes about that also. Was there a minyan today? There was. Don't worry, there was a minyan. Davar shebeminyan. Davar shebeminyan. I have just way too many sharp things. I had to stop. Davar chash. I think we already— yeah, I answered the davar chash. Let's go. Okay, next one, next one, next one, next one. Okay. Twenty-one. Twenty-one. Where is twenty-one? Twenty-one. Yeah, okay. Oh, this is important. So let's say we have—we're gonna learn this soon—that only the top gets caught, right? Because let's say it's only the top is the hot and the bottom is the cold. So then you have the halachos of either a kedei netilah makom, or kedei klipah, or grada. These are three things you will find in halacha: when, where, and how. Complicated. These are complicated things, but you have to know. Netilah makom is over yorech etzba, which the Chut HaMeshulash says a little more, but it's not important. It's in Tzemach Chaim. Anyways, mechaber kuf hei se'if daled. What is kedei klipah? Kedei klipah is a little bit less. It's just peeling, and then there's grada, which according to one shach seems to be hadachah—washing it. But the ma'aseh says grada and klipah is the same. Scraping knife, it's a stirah in the Shachs. I gave it to you, I gave you the stuff. Okay, you'll already try to find me more mechabers. I don't want Shachs. This is more mechabers and Ramaz, okay? I just need mechabers and Ramaz. Okay, davar shebeminyan we did. Haba duchka d'sakina. Duchka d'sakina. Oh, sorry, duchka d'sakina. Duchta d'sakina, when the knife is sharp, right? Whatever, duchta d'sakina, right? Yeah, you know what it is, right? Takes out the taam of reawakens. It says duchta d'sakina. You cut something with a knife, and the knife is fleishig, right? You might have an issue that the thing becomes fleishig, because duchta, it reawakens. And also, if you cut something sharp—well, the truth is that's davar charif. Now, okay, so you're already coming because you're biased of the new books that came out about the new kelim, okay? I can't help it. I bought something—I mean, an iron—and I see how porous it is. You can see it. Okay, so what you'll do is you'll discuss it over with, what's his name, the partial shechter from YU, because I'm sure there they have books about this topic, and the kelim are completely different. Is that too sharp? Very sharp. Okay, let's go weiter. What do you want from me? Duchta d'sakina. Maybe you need pages. Pages. Okay, page three. Ad meikelei—yeah, we're good, we're good, we're good. Okay, you know, I saw that you're busy with those—the kelim are different. I know, you're busy with iron keli, and I'm touching it and I see it's so porous. Okay, it is what it is. Okay, ad meikelei, you say. Ad meikelei, next one. Ad meikelei. Go ahead. Ad meikelei אי אפשר דלא בלע פורתא, which is this halacha that when it's cooling off, something gets— Is that a real question? Is it like science, or— Chazal knew, ... Chazal knew ... so you don't know what the simple lady in the kitchen knows. ... right? ... yeah, okay. ... ruach hakodesh ... the Raivid, all right, the beis medrash ... Okay, ad meikelei, go ahead. אי אפשר דלא בלע פורתא. Watch, which is what I just said. The Raivid says that the ruach hakodesh already came into the Beis Medrash and said, Kol haneshama, Tehalel Kah, haleluka. Is that one that the ... is that that one? It's by lulav, the Raivid, no? That a yavesh is pasul. Yeah, I think Rav Ovadia brings that down also. Oh, you mean now that the Raivid— Now that the Raivid— Yeah, they give down the Rambam. It's a portion Rambam. Wow, it's like the Litvish people, they only know the pasuk and Tanach because the Gemara brings it down. Okay, let's go weiter. Ad mei'ikar lei efshar, go ahead. Wait, no, Rebbe, I was asking, what is ad mei'ikar lei? Ad mei'ikar means it's cooling it off. Why is it cooling it off, right? It absorbs a little. It should. It should. The truth is, it should. It's the sevara of tatah gavar, so it really belongs. Okay, you'll put it there. Listen, I do this—I'm telling you, I do this at three o'clock in the morning. A million things on my head. Rebbe, can we come visit at three in the morning or after hours? Like, you want to have a million and one things on my head in the morning, and so I have enough with what I have. Simi. The truth is, that's—

I really should, I need to get away a little bit. Siman, kuf hei, go ahead. Okay. Okay, so now there's two rules over here, which the truth is, I don't know if I can even pin it down in Shulchan Aruch. Where is this? What is this? But it's ein omrim chanan b'emtzas pashtus, you know. And that's the word mefapeya. You have to know mefapeya, and I had to bring it in because it's common terminology. Mefapeya means it's moving, it's bubbling, it's permeating, it's coming. You got to know the word mefapeya. If you don't know mefapeya, it means it's like not knowing that there's such a thing called tayag mitzvos and you say you know Chumash. You know, it's impossible. You have to know the word. You say it's important, you mean the fact that it's bubbling and moving? The word mefapeya comes up so much in Yoreh Deah that it's okay. Now, okay. Ein issur balua yotzei mechatichah l'chatichah. This is very important. Ela b'emtza davar lach. Davar lach, rotev, it has to have something. Oh yes, sure, Shulchan Aruch. Where is it? Right here. Ein issur balua yotzei mechatichah l'chatichah, b'lo retiv. Important. That's the key. You need a liquid as a mediator. Otherwise it ain't going from one place to the other, unless it's neveilah atzmah. Unless what? It's neveilah by itself, on top. You don't need rotev. Why not? Oh, that's דין שולחן ערוך. So that's in kuf hei. Issur atzmo doesn't need rotev. It's only by basar b'chalav where you're trying to get the milk to go to the meat, to the chanan, and that needs rotev. Okay, you got it? If it not kosher meat is on top of the kosher meat, you don't need— Anyway it becomes treif. That becomes treif. Just finish all of basar b'chalav, whatever we're learning next week. No, but you see what I'm doing for you? It's amazing what I'm doing for you. I'm just like mamash giving you all the klalim, and I tried last night to make sure that I miss anything. Okay, let's go weiter. Next. Ein issur chal al issur. This is the first one in pei zayin, so you can't go wrong with that one. See, pei zayin, right? The veilo. That's why there's no basar b'chalav in aveilah. Why? Because ein issur chal al issur. Okay, what are the three exceptions to the rule? Is a mosif, is a kolel, and is bavas achas. My uncle used to say that a hard time. My uncle said they had a very hard time making a kolel in Boston. He said because they pasken here in Boston is a kolel. Okay. That's a second joke. Somebody's gonna lie. Anyways, the vort is like this: issur mosif is when the second issur is more issur, or more chomer, then we can say issur mosif. Or it's the kolel, if it adds more people to the issur, more—adds, Isha, I don't know, whatever, that's called an issur kolel. This is the random klalim, no? Random klalim, when it goes to the mitzvos. I told you, the klalim and... Issur bavas achas, or if it comes at the same time, then we say. But if it comes one on top of the other, ein issur chal al issur. Ein issur nifla mimena legamrei, אפילו—ooh, this is a good one, this is a good one. Tell me, let's say you have sixty, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're done. I saw this. And the truth is you're not done, because if you know that piece that has it, you got to take that piece out. Why do you have to take that piece out? Because of this rule: ein issur nifla mimena legamrei, אפילו בשישים. It doesn't go. Now, the reason why we're always matir everything is because we don't know, and therefore we say bitul and taroves. What's the nafka mina, what I told you, the machlokes the Rashba and the Ra'ah, if you could eat each piece, right? If it's batel, it's gone, right? If it's gone, so it's gone. But if the pshat is it's there, we just don't know, and therefore each piece is mutar, so the last piece would become what? Kuf yud, siman kuf yud, se'if aleph. Ein disa nifleh menu... Next, four. Okay, go ahead. Nafka mina kach shaman sfeika. Go ahead, new talk. Yes. What are we reading? Reading number page four. We're almost finished. Almost finished. After we finish, it's called the three-hour basa b'chalav course. It's a three-hour, like the driving, the three-hour. Basa b'chalav for dummies. So then I said yes. I didn't want to say; I'd rather say it for the balabatim. And then that's why none of them showed up anymore. For some reason, they're all running the streets wild. Yeah, look at the sakin. I think it was a little too sharp for them. Yeah. So the three-hour course, I'll give you smicha. I'll give you smicha afterwards. I told him, I told him, every good Sephardic Jew in second grade needs to know two things. One is he needs to know 'Romemu Hashem Elokeinu,' and the second thing he needs to know is 'Yoredei'—he's getting smicha. That's what he needs to know, second grade. Okay, now, nafka mina kach. It's true. I know it's true. It's sharp, but it's true. Okay, go ahead. Nafka mina—everybody's getting smicha. Okay, go ahead. Nafka mina kach. You know the Chofetz Chaim didn't have smicha, you know that, right? No. The Chofetz Chaim didn't have smicha. It wasn't interesting. He didn't want to. He didn't want to be a rav. He didn't want to be a rav. He was a rav and he quit after three weeks, three months, or three weeks. That guy who passed away, right?

No, the shaychus, some story about a shaychid. Okay, the story, I don't know about the dream. I can just tell you what it says in the Yasher book. The Yasher book writes that he didn't want to become a rav, so he left Radin because they knew his mother-in-law was going to force him to become a rav because there was no parnassah in the house. So she figured for parnassah, he didn't want, so he ran away, and he never took semichah because of that. He didn't want to become a rav. Ketzas maaseh, when he came back, there was no money, his mother-in-law forced him. Mother-in-law? Yeah, his wife. His mother-in-law, they made a whole lachatz on him, so he became a rav on three conditions. Condition one, they can never argue with him. Condition number two, that whoever the shaychitz, only him, the shaychidim is only him. Condition number three, that the minute, the minute that he feels that they—he says goodbye, he doesn't have to give an explanation. He can just say goodbye and good luck. So, maybe three weeks or three months later, I don't know, it was a very short time later, whole story about a shaychid, that all three in one shot. They argue with him, shaychid, and he did condition number three. He got up from Parshas Noach, which this week's parsha. He got up Parshas Noach, he said, My rabosai, I'm not even giving you a reason, because that was the condition. Have a nice day. I don't want to see you ever again, and don't ever again. Have a nice day. Okay, nafkamina— Huh? Yeah, by Parshas Noach they get rid of all the rabbanim. That's what happens. Yeah, after the Chagim it's finished, you know. They come and they say, Listen, the Noach built a teivah, they sent him off, we'll send you on a teivah also. Nafkamina kachush v'shamen. Hopefully on the teivah, not in one. Nafkamina kachush v'shamen is very good. Okay, so two pieces together, if it's kachush, there's no problem. Remember we spoke about this. Dry and dry don't go, so you need shamen, fatty. Question is, what happens if it's safek shamen? The Rama comes and says, Since we don't know, so we don't know, so therefore that's why we have basar b'chalav. Otherwise we wouldn't even have basar b'chalav. Most of the time it wouldn't be a story. Most time what? We don't know. We could find out. You Rama says this all the time. Speak to Rama. What's the last point? Ain onu yodsim. You know what? What's the last point we were talking about? The only time the two problem, it's when there's a fat meat, kachush meat. It has to be fatty meat. But if it's kachush meat, there's no problem. So he's saying you can find out what. Sfeiko, so sfeiko is asur. Something is suffik. Today everything is suffik, we don't know, says the Rama. You're saying we really can't find out. I don't know. It's suffik. Today everything is asur. The Gra says that when Rama says we don't know, we don't want to know. We don't want to. See, if you notice, I said it that way. That's why I sent you to Krakow. It's not in Gaya. Krakow? Yeah. He asked me, I told him, go speak to Rama. He's buried in Krakow. Okay, now, yeah? We don't know how much gets into the keli, and we don't know how much from the keli goes into the meat, right? Therefore, that we have a problem. Otherwise we would say, you know what, how much really, how much and how much, and the answer is we don't know. So therefore we say the whole pot is a problem, and we say all the meat in the pot is a problem. That's siman צח, סעיף ד'. אין אנו יודעים כמה נבלע בכלי וכמה נפלט בו. אין בגידין נותנין טעם, ואין, no problem. You're learning the sugya, no? You're doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. סעיף ד', צח סעיף ד'. Otherwise you wouldn't be allowed to cook the korban Pesach. Okay, now. Is there a hisna? Who? What's hisna? What? The taam of the gidin. The gid itself. It's hisna. Gid הנשה, yes. What's the shaylah? That should be the problem. What's your question? How do you sell the parts? Yeah. What's hisna on a gid? No, this is hisna. What are they worth already? You mean the taam should be asur al taam, you mean, not asur nosin taam? What exactly do you want? It doesn't give taste, but the actual piece is asur. Yeah, so what do you have from it? You can sell it. Yes, that's what Tosafos said. This is what Tosafos... Where was Tosafos? No? We sell it as a whole piece. As a whole piece. Therefore it becomes like batel almost, like it's standing. Okay, next. Rak neisar b'makom she'isur yachol leilech. This is very important. So let me tell you what every basar b'chalav professor — professor of... why you? They're professors of basar b'chalav. So let me tell you what every professor of basar b'chalav has to know, here. He has to know the science. The science. The food science. He does. I'm telling you, you're going to become big scientists in basar b'chalav. This rule. Okay, I don't want my head knows. There's enough to tumble you for the rest of your life, stuff that's going on in my head. Okay, rak neisar b'makom she'isur yachol leilech. It's only aser where the issur could go. As far as the issur could go, then we say chanan. Okay, where is this?

We're here, right? We take a guess. You know what, I guess I have to write a piece of paper. Go ask Chazal. Now on, go ask Chazal what you want from me. Chazal, Chazal. Okay, let's go weiter. Next, I see you falling asleep on me. Don't fall asleep on me. Go ahead, nu. Ein ones, go ahead, you were saying. Go ahead. Ein ones yoter meha'issur atzmo. It doesn't get worse. Whatever it's balua, it can only have the halachos of the issur itself. It's complicated, but it is what it is. Okay, remember this rule. Okay, now, ein kli oseh belo rotev. Tell me, one kli next to another is a problem? Touching, ... The answer is one kli cannot asser another kli if there's nothing rotev in between the two. Okay, that's siman gimel se'if aleph. Issur shemakiro tzarich lizarko. Right, you can't come and say, I have this bottle. If you know where the issur is, what do you have to do? Got to throw it out. Issura bala, hetera bala. I didn't even give you mareh mekomos because it's everywhere, but you should really get me one mareh makom, and that is Pesach, ... chametz is what? Called issura bala on Pesach. And what's it before Pesach called? Hetera bala. Big nafka mina is l'gabei bitul. What? Before Pesach. Before Pesach. On Pesach. So this is issura bala or hetera bala. Number six, go ahead, next. Number page number five. Ah, issurim mevatlim zeh zeh. Siman tzadi ches se'if tes. One issur is mevatel another issur. One issur is mevatel another issur. So for example, the issur of neveilah takes care of the issur basar bechalav, right? Can I have one issur make bitul on another issur? Can you use another? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look it up. Tzadik Ches, se'if tes. Go ahead. He has it right there. He has his Mishnah Berurah open, whatever you call that, his cheating stuff. Tzadik Ches, no? Se'if tes. No, which one? It might be a good one. I like this guy. Okay, go ahead. I like him better than the other one. I use the... what do we use him for? Go ahead, no, Tzadik Ches. Okay, next, next. Okay, bitul b'shishim. Yeah? Yeah. Heter v'naflu bah shnei zeisim, echad shel dam v'echad shel chelev. Oh, so that's it. Mevatel zeh. Ah, ah, ah. Mevatel chaveiro. Mevatel zeh, that's exactly what I told you. Okay, zayis, that's the story. Okay, bitul b'shishim, yeah, that you have to know, all right? What does that mean? Can you imagine a guy learns Yoreh Deah and doesn't know what bitul b'shishim is? Bitul b'shishim, sixty. Bitul. Now you want to know how bitul works? Ayin the next maamar. We're gonna be busy with it for the next maamar, okay? But bitul b'shishim, siman צח, se'if aleph, beis. Bishlacha bishla — do we say bishlacha bishla by basar b'chalav? Yeah, there is, I know, a lot of... It depends, it depends if they were cooked together or not, right? I got this sefer, Rav David Chacham Yitzchak Yosef, it's a nice piece in this sefer. I saw it quickly at, what, three, four o'clock in the morning. He didn't finish. He has on this topic, he has on his basar b'chalav sefer, he has on this topic, bishlacha bishla. Anyways, siman pei-zayin. Nobody has like a whole piece in the back. You saw it? Reb opens up in the... by bishul on Shabbos, he also... he always compares it. Yeah, okay, so siman pei-zayin, se'if aleph, bishlacha bishla. Bekayim. What is bekayim? Bekayim are cracks, meat that have cracks, so we can't say teklipa; it goes in. It goes in, it goes in. Bekayim. I don't know. I don't know, man, but bekayim. Okay, next. Baalei chayim, not batel. What do you mean, baalei chayim? Good question, okay? Batel cats? Cats? Why? Who's eating cats? Koreans. Koreans. So what do you want to be mevatel, the Korean or the cat? What's the shaila? No, what's the case then? No, baalei chayim, bugs. I don't know. I don't know what you need beriah about. I don't know, but it's two different things. That's what I'm saying. What is it? I don't know. I don't know why you need beriah, and I don't know what you need baalei chayim. Okay, anyway, gezeirah, parush ha-tekavua. Sometimes kavua is aser, and sometimes parush should be mutar, right? But sometimes we aser parush because of the kavua. Sometimes I take off a piece from the whole piece, right? So that's already parush. Let us say called the parush merubah parush, not all, say basar mechalav, not all. You just cut off a piece. Okay, very nice, called parush merubah parush. You know, but the l'shisha, and the answer is we don't say that. The answer is gezeirah parush ha-tekavua. You knew this rule? You knew this in kuf yud? No, you don't. We saw this today somewhere, no? Tell us. Perfect. Must be in the... because this is the...

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