Pas Akum and Pas Palter: Baking for Sale, Personal Use, and the Concern of Kirvah

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So today we're gonna switch around, meaning that I don't stop talking, so you guys are gonna say shiur for me today. I'm listening. Ready? Okay. Let's start with Shulchan Aruch. Let's start with the Magen Avraham. Shulchan Aruch says, ... What does that mean? Sounds very cryptic. What does it mean? Okay, so let's read in Shulchan Aruch. What does it say in Shulchan Aruch? Yeah. You're not taking out the Shulchan Aruch. ... If he invites him, if he invites the Jew to his house, so then it becomes pas ba'al habayit. Now what's the pshat? Because ba'al habayit means he did it for himself. Oh, so that's later. Let's go slowly. That's later. That's what I'm meaning. We get out there. Let's go. I don't know. It didn't say anything yet. We said nothing. All it says is, shem hizmin. You're teaching me. Maybe I don't know anything. Okay, shem hizmin, if he invited the Jew to the house, what's the halacha? Then it's pas ba'al habayit, and therefore it's aser, according to Mechaber, it's assur, according to Rama, ein matzui. Okay, but it's aser. Good? Okay. Ayin beis yud. Go ahead, next one. Ayin beis yud. Oh, that's the story. If he gave it from what he made for himself, what's the shaylah? It's not mutar because he just gave it to you, because that's the problem. He did it to sell. Therefore, and what's the nekudah? U'baasa hashtazlinan. Then we go after what? After now. What does that mean? No. Meaning now that he's using it to give to you, and therefore is a mutar, is an asur. It won't be baal habayit. Huh? He's not selling it to you; he's giving it to you as a baal habayit meal. But why did he do it for? He cooked it, he baked it for it to sell, but he's not selling. So since he has personal—it's personal use. Ayin Shulchan Aruch, סעיף ז'. Okay, so could you read that inside? Because that's very controversial, very controversial. I know you guys don't like hearing the word controversial. This is like saying the pasuk is a controversial pasuk. Do you learn? No, I mean, it brings up issues, yeah. ... אסור לעולם. ... אפילו קנה ... ממנו, ואפילו שלחה ישראל ... וכן אפילו שלחה אותו ישראל ... ... זה אחר מי שאפה בידו עכשיו, ... אחר מי שהיה לו בשעת אפייה. So there's a problem. Problem, problem. Here it says we go after basar hashta, and over there it says basar afiyos. So what do we do? Ayin Shach. The Shach comes along, gives me two tirutzim. What are the two tirutzim? What are the Shach's two tirutzim? No? That it's just yesh omrim, you see? Some say, some say. Not us. Say we say, or they say yesh. It's a klalim game. Klalim game. That's more the Sefardic way. Dude, the yeshiva she'olam is not busy with that. They're gonna do the dikduk thing. That's the yeshivah. Didn't say he says; it says yesharim. Some say. And the Sefardic guys go do the klalim game. Reb Yitzchok יש several three volumes on it, okay? No, no, really, I'm being honest with you. No, I'm just saying, I'm just telling you, a guy wouldn't even start with the klal. It doesn't—you don't go there. Tell that to him, he's gonna say, What did you— No, he just wouldn't know it. He's mind frame is yesharim; it's not halacha. Some say, yeah. Some say you have to keep Shabbos. Some say it, you know. Yeah, there is. There were gedolim that were busy with it, and there were gedolim that weren't busy with it. I have to tell you the honest, there were gedolim who were very busy with the klalim. The Chazon Ish maybe a little bit, a little bit. Rav Shach was busy even the klalim of the Mishnah Berurah. There was klalim on how to learn the Mishnah Berurahs, you know. Mishnah Berurah sometimes brings it, ... Most—the lamdanim in the yeshiva world would say the Shach yesharim, it's not halacha. That's what he meant, okay. Let's go back to it. Yeah? Yeah, yes. What's the teretz? Yes, how does that work? It's not a teretz. What's the teretz, though?

It's not a teretz that I'm a stira, right? People have that as a teretz. Stira, what do you want from me? Yeah, I'm a moody, right? That's not the answer, so what's the answer? Okay, so what's the answer? ... it's like garatfei. That's worse. That's the pshat. ... is much worse. Because really, he's cooking it just for you. He wouldn't eat it by himself. So it's like almost like a limit. So it's much worse, right? ... Better than him cooking it for himself and then giving it to you. Correct. Not mamash balai. Okay. ... Okay. Nekudas hakesef. Nekudas hakesef. What is the nekudas hakesef? It's the name of the guy. Nekudas hakesef is the name of a sefer. Yeah. You said over the nekudas hakesef. I want the shach. The Shach and Nekudas hakesef are two different terutzim. Go ahead, tell me the Shach again, the second teretz of the Shach. Shach says it's garatfei. And if it's his mina yetzlei. Right. It's garatfei. It's not really a contradiction. It's an exception to the rule. Why? Because since you're inviting to him, chasnus, kirva, you didn't say it right. You were saying over the nekudas hakesef. So let him see it inside. I don't want to make this mistake, yeah? Yeah. The Shach is saying a very simple thing. You invite the guy to your house, so what do you want? That's what the Cham assered. The Chacham assered that you shouldn't invite him to the house. Okay, go ahead, yeah. No. What is ringing like this? So somewhere my phone is somewhere, and because of that—oh, that's your answer. Okay, go ahead, continue, yeah. Continue, continue, yeah. No. It so excites you because that's the whole issur, to go to the house. Really, really bad, and we will go techilas. But when it's inviting him, the bread, mitzahar atzmo doesn't have— Now you just, you see that hand? That's why I'm giving the shiur. No, I'm explaining to you, that hand is why I'm giving the shiur, meaning you chap what I want. Isn't it mitzahar? It's not a story, it's the bread. Then inviting him gives the bread. And then we can start playing the game whenever there's— That's exactly. All these she'eilos are really machlokes Rishonim and Acharonim. You hit it on the button. You just hit it. It's all—this is the shaylah. Do we look at the situation or do we look at the pas? Is it pas akum? I hold it's emes l'amito. It's been over twenty years. And the Kuzari is saying that—what do these words mean? He's saying that, keivan shehismin palter es Yisroel, glilah milsa b'alma she'asahu lat. How he did it. So now the bread has a status of pas. It's a very small nuance. You're going to have to be mechalek in your mind. Do we look at the situation? There's kirvah, there's this, there's friendship, there's that, there's an akum, you're touching, you're being, you're sitting there by the akum. Or it's a shailah, pas. Is his bread or it's not his bread? Is the chefetz of the gavra type of thing? Maybe, if you don't. I'm trying to stay away from yeshiva sheloshanis, because then you think I'm giving you like a chaims, you know what I mean? I try, but not to try to do that. Yeah, because then all of a sudden, you see he has hashgachah day. I try my best to stay. I don't know if you notice that. Like I'm really trying to stay away from that. So everybody's camouflaging, then we... Yeah, I'm not. I'm camouflaging the truth. The truth of... You understood. I'll be... like the... Never said one thing that was... Okay, bottom line. You listen, bottom line, ready? Bottom line, bottom line. You need to... So the Ketzos is saying... No, the Ketzos is saying is that bread is takah pas akum, because it's galui milsa that by the afiyah already he did it for himself. So it goes by the afiyah, he's saying. It's like the... Oh, he's saying it's not a stirah, the afiyah, because there is no busa hashta. There's no such thing as busa hashta. It's galui milsa that even when he baked it...

Baked it for himself. Himself means to give it. He invites him over means he baked it, his bread, and he's inviting him to eat his bread. I, he baked it to give to him? He never really baked it to give; he baked it for himself. Whenever he changes his mind, retroactively goes back in time? He didn't change his mind. You know how people give bread to a neighbor? They bake it for themselves, and then they invite their neighbor to eat it. I have five leftover bread. Not even leftover. You're inviting someone in your house. That means I baked it for myself, and I'm going to invite you to come in and have some bread. You become part of his household. More or less, in a way, like his kids. I'm being very careful because you're going to get all that. Now you say, machlokes haRav and Rav Ashi, all you have to do is show the hand, and you remember for the rest of your life. You use a cloth. Okay, you have it. You wrote it. You have it. Next. So what's the situation versus? Is it about what you... or is it, did it become the pas? Cheftza is this pas akum. Or it's about the story that I'm going giving Jew bread in his house. Is that the story? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, but that bread is kosher, so it comes from good. That's the question. All you asked me are these questions. You ready? See all these questions? This fan is really starting to bother me. I can't hold my paper. No, no, no, it's just I have to... Okay, so listen carefully and you're going to learn. Go, go. Next, next. Go ahead. Move, let's go. Next. Mah nafka mina? Halacha, meitirutzi hashach. Forgive me, let's see if you could come up with a big nafka mina. I came up with fourteen nafka minas. Let's see if you can come up with some. Let's say he tells him clearly, tells him clearly, yeah, he's mazmin him to the house. He tells him, Here, I baked it for you. No, I had food. I just made it only for you. Yeah, tells you clearly, Come, you know, I baked your bread. I know you like Jewish pumpernickel. I baked you Jewish pumpernickel. Me, I can't stand it. I can't put that in my mouth. So you didn't do it for me. It was his one. I said, write that down, write that down. Why aren't you writing this down? Yeah, this is it. This is Jewish pumpernickel. That's like, that's... That's European stuff. Yeah, the Europe. They love it. Okay, got it? Now let's see if you really get it. Let's see if we separate the lamdanim from the poskim. Now you're going to become a posek, okay? Lamdanim and poskim are two different people. Maybe. This would be enough for a shiur in yeshiva. They would love it. This is so good. Won't understand. Now we're going to see if you can read it. Okay, ma hu hadin? Go ahead, who's reading? Go ahead. Ma hu hadin... Where are you? Aleph. The Rebbe said already aleph. Ma hu hadin b'akum? I thought that was aleph. No, no, no. Okay, ma hu hadin. Ma hu hadin b'akum she'afah pat b'veito, v'hu l'maaseh uman, ha'im pito asur she'afah b'veito, o dilma hava kefat palter, hagam shelo afah l'mechirah? So talk to me. You notice that, let's say the guy is a palter. That's what he does for a living. That's what he does. So he baked it in his house. ... גם שלא אפו לנכירה. ... So what's ...? ... What is ...? ... Eating? Cook it for mechirah. So that's two ways how to learn. The Shach says, ... כל שאסור לעצמו איכא משום ... דלדבר זה בעל הבית. So we're going to get to the Shach in a few minutes. Could you do the Mechaber, סעיף ח'? יש מי שאומר, במקום שאין פתו מצוי כלל, מותר אפילו של בעל הפתים. ... Okay, what does the Mechaber say?

Right, if you don't have—there's no baker. Yeah, if it says, ... there's no baker there found. ... mutar afilu shel baal habayis. It's mutar even baal habayis. What happens if there's a palter, but he ate do it from his store? Baal habayis. He has the status of baal habayis. He has the status of baal habayis. Only if there's no palters around. Again, again, again, again. What does Rabbi want from Shulchan Aruch? I want something. Obviously I want something. I'm trying to figure out what would be if the palter is matzui, but he's—he's not going to go to the store tomorrow? I don't understand. He's not going to—he's not doing anything for himself. So he's a baal habayis. He's baking, but he's not baking for himself. Who is he baking for? So how about that he's baking for the fun of baking, or for the learning of baking, for the studying? He has a culinary school? Huh? He has a culinary school? Maybe. He's giving a culinary class. He's giving a culinary class. Or in the local yeshiva. He's baking. How about if he's just baking here for test? No, to learn, or for ... recipes. What is the word l'atzmo? That's really what I want. I want to hear how you learned the word l'atzmo. Okay, so write that. So you can learn, and it means anything not from a shiur, or you can learn anything that he has a personal interest in. Right. Do you need mechirah, or do you need that it has to be l'atzmo? Everything else or everything? That's the question. What's the nafka mina? The mechirah or another one? So this is the case. What's l'atzmo? Maybe it has to—this ... but we'll get to it later. Let's go. Maybe l'atzmo means he needs to bake it because he plans on eating it. Latzui means anything not for mechirah is called latzui. Mah did, the pas k'she'afa b'beiso, al daas l'mochri l'ish meyuchad v'lo l'rabim, im zeh adayin nikra pas palter. He ain't selling public. He's giving it to his next-door neighbor. His next-door neighbor's gonna sell it. What's that? Rashba? No. The Shayeh Bakir. I am Pri Chadash, se'if katan yud aleph. You have to know, what do they argue? What's considered latzmoi? So the Rashba is saying that it's considered latzmoi, as long as it's not selling, because he's not selling to the rabim. But they're arguing, no, he's not giving it to—he's giving it to somebody else. That's right. That's considered latzmoi. I'm allowed to say good. Say good. Everything's saying. Nobody puts these two things together. This is me. I put all this together. I don't know, it's there. What, nobody thinks? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, next one. Mahu hadin, the fact that I put all this together is me saying. I'm saying that this is connected to this, which is connected to gimel, which is connected to daled, which will all be explained with everything I told you on the first page. So go ahead, next. Mahu hadin, im af beito litin l'chenvani meyuchad, v'hu hachenvani im karu l'rabim, im ze nichshav l'shnas ha'mechirah, o nichshav shnas ha'pti v'asur? No, he's going to give it to a chenvani. He's not giving it—distributor. So it's nichi, he's making money, no? It's only going to one guy. So what is the takeaway for business? You're giving it to one guy. You guys weren't the bechoysif. He did say, moichel l'rabim. He did use those words. There is words like that, words like that in the Beis Yosef. Yeah, you want to read it for me? No Beis Yosef? No? Not your gavra chevta, you forgot. Open the book more. Where is it, in seif gimmel? I don't know, the Beis Yosef. I don't remember exactly where it is. Yeah? ... teshuva. ... פירוש ... ... That one? Maybe, I don't know. ... Yes. ... רבא למחתנו ולפטר ... ... לפני ישראל. ... ישראל אסור, לפי שישראל שראה שמישראל היה.

Selling to selling, huh? There's the case is that... I know, give me sell. He says the words clearly. Present or selling. He says it clearly, no? Here he says, ... but ... who hadin im hacham ze basar ... Uminei lepas baal habayis sheba leyad ha... she'asu lelakcho min ha... We have to find it. He says where he says if you give it b'matanah, or you linkle l'rabim... You need to know much more information, a lot more information. We have to find it. Okay. The bottom line is, I want to know when he says limkor l'rabim what he means. If it's limkor l'yachid, what happens then? The Shalos u'Teshuvos form are busy. Maybe l'rabim means he has no kesher with the one guy. Moisheh l'teshuvah, Moisheh l'teshuvah. Since you're selling to many people, so you don't have... Let's ask. Selling to you, maybe that's worse. Maybe if I'm selling to one Jew, to chemdin, he's going to distribute l'rabim. So we should say that by doing any business with a goy. No, because they asru pas akum and they were matir when it was mechirah. Shailah is, what's called limkor. The lashon... He says he wants to take... Moicher l'rabim, moicher l'rabim, to sell it l'oydei kochavim shelo bifnei Yisrael. You can't sell in front of a Jew. That's something else. He says the words moicher l'rabim, to... Question is, what is that? I'll find it. It says it clearly. It's mechirah l'rabim, l'rabim. The question is, what's called rabim? Okay, let's go weiter, and then when he comes back, we'll make a chazarah. Go ahead, next. Yeah? Gimel? Yeah. Ma adin... Daled, daled. Ma adin b'Yisrael shekibel pat baal habayit, v'natan l'Yisrael acher, va'avar kama yadayim she'ein chashash chaser. You understand? By the time it came, it's patak. It went to this Jew, to that, to there, to here, and then by the time you got it, so you have nothing to do with that original guy. Back to the machlokes between the Rama and the Steipler. After techilah, so we go after... or maybe not. Or maybe chaser, or maybe a chaser. So what does the Ritva, Avodah Zarah lamed hei amud beis, says? Asur. Even though you have no connection to the original, who cares? Who cares? So if you pay close attention, you'll see that every step is one step on top of another step, on top of another step, digging, digging at what's called gezeirah pasah. So let's do it again. Ma adin... Yeah? Gimel. ... Ma adin b'Yisrael... No, do gimel. We did gimel. Yeah, you have it? One guy. Okay, next. Ma adin b'Yisrael shekibel... It went hand to hand. It went... by the time you got it in the store. So let's say this guy makes muffins in his house, okay, and then he sold to this guy, and then that guy, and then you got it. You have anything to do with that first guy? Yeah, but you know it's a goy, right? That's the shaylah. So what does the Ritva say? Ritva says, I don't care how many hands. I know who it is. Even though I have nothing to do with that first guy, I'm still a loser. Ritva, go ahead. Maha din b'palter shef? Is that how you spell shef, by the way? No. C-H. It is C-H? C-H. Yeah. Now you know that I never went to school. And everything I know is because I'm fast. I learn fast. I went to school. Okay. Chef she'ofeh b'veiso l'nisayon l'hachkim avodah shelo. Hayim nechshav— okay, I'm sorry, I have to fill in the words. Hayim nechshav what? Hayim nechshav pas palter or pas baal habayis? That's the question, right? Doing it for himself, but ain't doing it to eat; he's doing it to teach. Ayin Shach, and that's what I want in the Shach. סעיף קטן י״א, what is the lashon of the Shach? אפילו קבוע ומומחה לרבים, כל שעשו לעצמו, איכא משום איקרובי דעתא.

The ... is a balabay. ... he's the chef. Ravin's talking about the big chef, mumcheh l'rabim. What does he want with the mumcheh l'rabim? He's not a seller. He's a chef. You understand the difference? The Beis Yosef is talking about seller, distributor, the guy with the beeper. I don't know the seller. This is about the guy already that he's—he wears the hat. He wears the hat. That's what, the ... already. What are you guys calling? Culinary, the culinary guy, okay? Now, madin—it's not called culinary? No, it's just funny because it's ... they wear hats also. Okay. ... b'pas, yeah? Bags. Then all of a sudden he brings home. ... Whoa. Awesome. You like it, huh? He thought when he was baking, if any leftovers, he'll bring home. You know what it is? When you go in for the root canal, just keep on drilling. You see, I'm gonna—ouch. No, but I keep— you'll see what I keep on doing. I'm drilling, you understand what I'm doing? I'm drilling. I'm not—I'm gonna keep on going. Go ahead, yeah? ... Why? He made it? He bought pas Yisrael. He bonding over lunch. Yeah, so that's a separate issue of going to the coffee house. Yeah, so why not? Yeah. Why not? He didn't bake it. That's the question. He used his oven? Warmed up. Okay, you want to say go one second. I didn't say this. Oh, so what does this have to do with us? So, but I don't understand this. Shashkirva. Why don't you look at the situation? I don't say, well, this is worse. That's a question. I want to go there. Shashkirva. So what does the Rashba say? ... Why? Because there's ...? ... They'll say that the taam of the takanah applies. Taam of the takanah applies. Okay. Palter. Good, good, good. Palter. ... No, but another ... ... Is there any reason why, like, they're banging the door? What's going on? Okay, let's go back. Palter ... ... No. Who? That's different. That's because he did it in the house, with the kavanah for the chemdas yachid. Here he did it in the store, limker le'echad. He did it in the store. What's the difference between store and house? So I'll tell you, I guess the Pri Chadash, they were all crazy because they talk about this. I guess the Pri Megadim must have had a problem. You see what I mean? Pri Megadim, siman קי״א, and the Pri Chadash, siman קי״א. What is the question? If I give you the mashal, you'll understand it even better. Mr. Johnny — not Johnny, give me a better name for a real shaygetz. Give me a good name of shaygetz. Shmuel. Who? Shmuel. That's in Arabic. Give me a shaygetz from real. Craig. Craig. Okay. Baker Craig. Hey, Chaim. I baked you, for you only. Special for you, the pumpernickel bread. Special, special for you. You're paying me for it. You don't pay me, I give presents. But it's for you. I baked it for you in my... First case I had was he baked it in the house to give to one guy, a chemeni. So the store takes away from the hatzma? Ooh, in the store, no, but he baked it for the Jew. And maybe now there's kirva because it's special for you. Palter could be the heter because it's l'rabim. But if I bake it for you and you come in and I hug you, Hi, my best friend, hi. So then it will take away from the fact he made it in the store. That's right. He made it in his house. That's right. Who doesn't say this case? So I guarantee you that he does, but I spent a lot of time learning this. So it might be a different seif katan, but it's there. No, that's the case, but he doesn't say the store case. First of all, how about the beis Yosef? Let's start with the Beis Yosef. What does the Beis Yosef... Okay, you don't even know what the Beis Yosef... The Beis Yosef mashma, d'lo have pas palter. Why? Because the rab... that's that. You're gonna have to go back there. If you don't have that rabim, I'm not coming after Lakewood, I'm gonna go to Lakewood on the...

So you're gonna have to get the spot. I'll do Google search. Okay, Google search. Good. Yeah, no. Go ahead. Chasidim call it a Google search. Okay, I am ... Go ahead, yeah. Okay, my ... sharp head. Okay, I can't help you. ... It's like in his house. Done. I thought it's about pas. It's not for him, it's ... See how the root canal ... All of a sudden, come on. It's hurting me. Okay, let's get a different mashal. You see how the cream, I'm putting the cream in the cake. You see how they're putting more cream. Go ahead. All right, you're right. You have to give a better mashal. Akum she'afah b'veiso. Yeah. V'shachach Yisrael b'matanah, hayim havei k'beiso, sheyeish shas kirah v'chasnah. How about if he did it in his house for the Yisrael direct? How about that? Worse. Worse? Kirvah? Yeah, no, maybe, could be. So there's a beautiful Kaf HaChaim, so now you can wake up because there's already ... stuff. It's good stuff, guys. Okay. Akum, go ahead, new akum. Palter, what do I have over there? Ein Kaf HaChaim. Here we are. ... k'dei liten l'Yisrael, aval oseh kein b'tmidus, v'lo rak pa'am achas, uvakrai ha'inyan shelo asur mishum kirvah b'chasnah. The guy bakes the stuff, just in the story says it's only for chayim. How about if he bakes in his house only for chayim? I mean, he's specifically baking Jewish bread. Chayim. He's giving chayim. He wants chayim. Chayim, I baked, I know you like this thing, chayim, and I baked it only for you. Every day he's doing it. Every day he keeps on sending him every Shabbos. He sends him challot. Hello for Shabbos, okay? You know, when I was in the hospital, so the Christian, they have the rabbi. So I don't know who's more Christian, the rabbi or the thing. I don't know what was a bigger koach, the rabbi. But the Christian minister, but she was a lady. So she'd come every Friday. The rabbi was a lady? No, no. Why she was a lady? Harvey's better. No, I'm just kidding. What's she called? The rabbi. He makes good money. The truth is, he's a smart guy. You know what he does? Nothing. Nothing? Literally, he comes from the rooms, So how are you? So how are you feeling? I used to think to myself, you make it worse. Go away. Meaning, what are you bothering? The poor kid is sick. You have nothing to say. Nothing. Nothing to say. Nothing. Every time it's the same thing. Well, I know where Lakewood is. Lakewood. He knows where Lakewood is. It's like ... He's the rabbi. If you need anything, please call on me. That was like nothing. I remember once, ... instead of leaving the room, he went to the bathroom by mistake. The door, he opened it up. Instead of leaving the room, he opened the bathroom, he walked in. Oh, he thought he was leaving. Yeah. No, he thought by mistake. He thought it was the exit. Yeah, I remember ... He was so sly. He looks at him. ... And when they pay him a lot of money to do that. Sure, he gets a good parnassah for it. He's the rabbi. He used to be the army and a pilot. I don't know what he was. He wasn't a chaplain. He wasn't a chaplain. He was a regular soldier. Then he decided to become a rabbi. It was a good gimmick. I don't even know if he was Jewish at all, but he was a tremendous rabbi. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, so she used to come every Friday to bring me challah. The priest, the lady priest, she used to bring challah. Oh, really? Look at that. Tell me, you remember the rabbi from the hospital? You remember? You remember which door he used to exit from? You remember when we went through the bathroom side of the exit? You remember? He knows where Lakewood is. That's the only thing he can... No, he's a goy, and he knows where Lakewood is. He didn't say anything else? Yes, he did. Kish lavana. He asked where Kish lavana is. He asked where... Yeah, no idea what Kish lavana is. He said, What is that...? Kish lavana. Okay. He's kvelling. He's kvelling. Yeah, okay. You remember when he asked me where Kish lavana was? You remember? I'll show you Rabba. Okay, let's go. Rabina, Rabina. I'll show you Rabina. Okay, let's go back. Good rabbi, yeah, big rabbi. Okay. Paltishov, you have to see. He was so...

But he looks, he turns to me, he goes... He comes out and he goes, Oh, I got the... How could you get the wrong door? You just came in from it. You know, that's the... I said, And this thing, they give you? They pay you? They pay you? Okay, let's go weiter. Akum, go ahead, Nu. Yeah, yeah, you see. You know the famous thing with the... I'll tell you later. I want to... Akum she'afah b'veisah, yeah, go ahead, Nu. Okay. Palter she'afah v'da'atoi... Also the Kaf HaChaim says it's asur, because since you're inviting him all the time, so you have a chashash kirvah. You have a chashash kirvah. Next halachah, Nu. Palter she'afah v'da'atoi... ...im kor chelek yikach l'veiso, mahu? ... Now we're getting lumps. ... chelek she'meivi l'veiso. And the other part is... The same thing as the other, a little different. Here's half and half. There the pshat is whatever's left over I'll take home. Here he's saying, he's already baking. He gets out of the time. I'm so happy that you come. I won't be here tomorrow, but I'll next week. Yeah? ... if he's having in mind from the beginning, take it home. Oh, this half. This half, right? How about looking at the other way? Since there's part of this bread, he was for the... We don't say breirah. Yeah, you don't like the Kaf HaChaim? Okay, it's alright. Let's take it out. Yeah, it's Kaf HaChaim's asur. Let's take it out, let's rip it up, because he doesn't like it. Where's the Kaf HaChaim? ... Just being sharp. Can I be sharp? Kaf HaChaim says asur. Kaf HaChaim says asur. Because of half, because half was from home. No, yeah, because half. What if he already separated? He took two bags. Oh, it's when he baked it. He had in mind that whatever I'll take left home. He holds in such a case the whole thing becomes aser, even the lechatchila part becomes aser. I'm saying, but this is all if it's in one baking. One baking. Why is this so? But he's choshesh he's not going to sell anything? Bring the sugya of breirah to Pesach. Right there, bring the din of breirah, and that they... This is the Ben Ish Chai. From the Ben Ish Chai, you got it from the Ben Ish Chai. The lashon of the Ben Ish Chai is like this: Lo halchu issur zeh achar mi shehapas בידו, achshav, ela achar mi shehachiyah. Afilu kana palter, ve'afilu shalach l'Yisrael habayis, shel palter muteres l'olam, afilu kana me'amino baal habayis shehu goy. Good. Lachen hagoy zimen es Yisrael l'veiso, vehivi lo pas min hapas. This is all the Ben Ish Chai. Yeah, but the Kaf HaChaim definitely takes from the Ben Ish Chai. But he's bringing it, but the tzad that he's saying... But then he says it, he says it... I'm just telling you. It's a מורדיגער Kaf HaChaim, but you saw the Kaf HaChaim, you have it there? No, not the Kaf HaChaim. Take it out. The Ben Ish Chai. The Kaf HaChaim is classic. Okay, let's go weiter. עקום שקנה, one more, let's go. Oh yes, I think this is our... After shechting pas Yisroel, im yachol Yisroel lechem mipas akum... So the Rashba says, the Rashba says, even baking. Yeah, but what happened? So it's not business shaylah; you can buy from goyim. That's right. You have kashrus... I also want you to know, I want to know if you could go to dinner with a goy. No. It's Yisroel being a coffee house. Yeah, so where is that based? Where is the source? Do that for homework. I want to know. I want to know. I have to go out to lunch with a guy. I went to Mc... You can't go to Mc... You can't pass... a lot of things when it's not... You might go to a Jewish restaurant. Yeah, I don't know, so talk to Jewish restaurants. That's what I want. I want to see if you could pass. So first let's finish all this, and then we're gonna go by. Yeah? Okay, go ahead. Yisroel... There, baking, but it's baking for who? For their own po'el. So is it considered like l'atzmoi? What's the situation? The boss is baking. You know, I'll give you a good example. For example, the pretzels. You know, they have the pretzels. So you have to finish baking those pretzels. The boss went, baked the pretzels, he brings it into the office, right? So everyone can eat. So they can have cookies and cakes, right? Snacks. You're one of the workers in the thing. What do you do? You know, it's 100% kosher.

Nice question, huh? He made it for... He made it for himself to give to his poel. At the same time... It always depends what we said before. It always depends what we said before. Iim pri megadim, that's the shaylah. That's what I mean. Okay. I'm going to be seeing this on Pri Megadim. Because he says it. Read it. ... baal habayis, she'oseh pas liten b'matanah l'chaveiro, kol she'ein oseh l'atzmo, havei kipalter. ... l'chaveiro, kol she'ein oseh l'atzmo. Go ahead, yeah. ... hamoishel she'oifin bishvilam... That's what I just saw. That's it. ... hamoishel she'oifin bishvilam? Yeah, meshartim. That's his workers. His meshartim, his people working in the house. He made it for the... Huh? ... Is that called...? Yeah. Okay, so what are the two yesodos? You ready? What are the two yesodos? Yeah, you can't sit there and say, Well, how could this be aser and this be mutar? Sitting at the table eating with him is what? Is it okay as long as it's not he made it for you? Therefore what? They're biting. They're biting, Shayla. No, all these she'eilos are—you're right—some of them are chashash chasos, but some of them... Okay. The chachamim—what? Go ahead, yeah. Okay. What do I want with this? It's not about the situation. How, what, when we are this—what is it? It's in the—once it turns into pas akum, al zeh goes. Going back to the shaylah. There are nine cases where you end up with the same reasoning. Exactly. That's what I want. So now let's go and ... the following. Could you go and sit with the guy ... Maybe that's not a Chazal asur. It's not an issur. You see that's not what they ... I'm saying you're allowed to invite the goy. A lot come to the goy's house, the yeshivah ... Why can't I go to a coffee shop with them? Rabbi, how do you understand ... Chazal? You have to do ... what Chazal said. So you heard the ... You heard this shit. I didn't hear that. I don't know. Each case needs to be done with all the ... Most say you can never play around with the ... And that's the ... That's when I came to town. ... is telling this shaila: if the takanah, or maybe we can start playing with the ... I'm ... It's old talk. I'm saying it's all ... Even if you do play with the ... you wouldn't say you play with the ... to make more stuff asur, would you? Depends how much. Depends how you're machmir. Exactly. What I'm training you with Chacham Avadia here, the answer is no. You know that, right? What it is is it is, and what's not, it's not. All right? ... Okay. You enjoyed today's shiur? You're gonna do the homework. Am I allowed to go to a Jewish restaurant? The rabbi? The Jewish restaurant, the guy sitting together in the Jewish restaurant, or not a goy, whatever, to sit together with him at a park bench and have lunch. It depends on who's ... This is your homework. I don't want to answer until you do your homework. That's fine. Okay, but—