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Hilchos Taaruvos: Chatichah Hareuyah Lehiskabed, Cut Pieces, and Kol Deparish

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All right, so you're gonna take care of this today? You're gonna search me a Mishnayos thing? This gotta be, this gotta be, the people like the way they do the daf in short. On the...

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All right, so you're gonna take care of this today? You're gonna search me a Mishnayos thing? This gotta be, this gotta be, the people like the way they do the daf in short. On the website, it has to be connected to the computer. Listen, maybe I can get a watch. He said maybe a thing. I didn't forget before any time. It's on a USB to get that. Find me something good, like, you know, like Rav Wolbe's daf, something the guy goes through the Mishnayos. They used to have that, I know they used to. They used to have daf of the Mishnayos, remember that? Daf of Mishnayos. Okay, let's go. So go ahead, read. Today's a very hard siman, se'if zayin. Till now it was charal. Even the siman was charal. It was chatichah reuyah liskabeid. Now it's beriyah. Ooh, this is the real hard stuff. You know that this is getting hard here. Okay, so take it away. Say. But let him say. He's sitting next to me. Let him say. So you cut a piece, right? Ein tolin lomar shel issur nechtach u'mitbatel, v'hayu kulan mutaros, ela oso shenichtach bilvad muteres, and the rest are really asur. In other words, all the mashlimim, you cut off a piece, oh, the charal disappeared. No, just that piece. The rest of them are what? Still b'issuram. Okay, go ahead. What do we say that the rov, you hear? The rov. Why do we come and say that the rov and the mechutachot were the charals, and the ones that are shalem are the mutarot? No. What are we going to say? All safek, whatever is chatuch is not charal anymore. The one that's not mechutach will remain asur. You like this halacha? Can't argue on it. You're right. So the question is, do you have an issue with this halacha? And the answer is, wait a minute, you know we're very strict. I don't understand, why don't you just say all of it together, you don't know, mesupak v'charal, you're not sure, all good. Like today, modern-day pesakim, right? When in doubt, mutar. That's all. Everything's mutar. But you don't know? Great. You don't know the halacha? Even better. Safek d'oraisa l'chumra, yeah, but safek d'rabbanan. It's a safek if I'm a rav, and if I know my psak halacha, so it's safek d'rabbanan l'kula. It's a sfeik sfeika. It's a great sfeik sfeika, no? Maybe I'm not a rav. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. So you have a sfeik sfeika l'hakel. Okay, so go ahead, read the next line. Yeah, v'kasha. Okay, kasha, lama lo amrinan safek d'rabbanan lekula? Why don't we say safek... why don't we say charal is only drabbanan? The whole story is drabbanan here. So how could you have a shaila? Ooh, the rest of them, they're issurim, only l'chatchila, which are clearly not charal. Okay, עיין רמ״א. Go ahead, read the Rema. ...אינו אלא... לבד והוא כ... ...Yeah, what is the Rema? Go ahead, yeah. סעיף א'. Yeah, that could be one problem. It's the wrong siman. Somewhat of a problem, yeah. ...אינה אסורה רק מדרבנן, אינה... אה, because it's a safek, right? Safek charal is mutar. Safek charal is mutar, b'hefsed. Doing great, doing great, yeah.

Right, the Ramah, klar? Nisa, you agree with the question? You better, because the Taz asks. So let's see. Ayin Taz. Go ahead, let Nisa read the next Taz. Ayin Taz. Sif katan Taz, b'shem HaMari Taz. Lamrinan... Oh, so he wants to know, wait a second, Rabbanan, when something rabbanan l'kula, he says slow down. Al hachaticha, what do we say? Kol deparish me'ruba parish. So therefore it's mehamutar. Ooh, interesting, huh? Interesting. Which means is, I thought it's the chaticha that's matir. He goes, even without that. What's parish? There's nothing parish. Yeah, it is parish. Yeah, that's what he wants to say. Took it out, chaticha, chatuch, cut it out. Cut it out? Cut up inside. I know. So this is a good question. You need to call the Taz and ask him, but this is what he says. And he's quoting some... You're not quoting, the Mari, go ahead. Aval... issurim nish'arim. I'm a little confused as far as what the case is. I have several pieces of meat. I have several pieces of meat. You don't know which ones are kosher and which is not kosher. It's all mixed in. So if I ended up cutting some of it, so that's for sure not kosher anymore. That's finished, right? Now what's stopping you from cutting the rest? Imivateles l'chatchila. So then what made it the first few pieces? Because I wanted it. I wanted a piece of meat, or it got cut by itself, whatever. So now I don't have rov anymore, and that's why I can't cut the rest. Correct. Okay. So, glad. Who wants to read the Taz inside? Does anybody want the job and the... And the exertion of reading the Taz inside. Go ahead, read the Taz. You need to read the Taz, but read it slowly so I can enjoy it too. Mashma de'mari gam ken. This Taz is going on a different one, going on Halacha tes. See, siman tes zayin? Tes vav. Tes vav is going on seif tes. Only Taz you have here is gimel. You have the Maria? No, doesn't bring the Mari. Yeah, it's yud daled. I don't know why. You know what it is? For some reason, I don't know, it's very hard to learn without a Shulchan Aruch. I basically, you know, it's... All right, so let's fix it. Yud daled, go ahead, yeah. Ayin Taz yud daled, yeah. Oh, even though normally we go after a good kasha, right? Go ahead. You read the... according to the Rabba, kol she'nitla b'mekomo min ha'rov hu, v'hu kemo kol de'parish me'ruba ka'parish. Oh, so it's parish me'harov, the rov was kosher, yeah? No, you're saying... chatichah is muteres. Right, so it's not because it's called parish me'ruba. This piece. Go ahead, yeah. ... lo nishtaneh, v'hu parish mikarbuto, me'harov by goleshar dura. Right. Aval ein lomar hata d'chol kavua k'mechtza al mechtza. Dekan yesh lefanecha shnei kivuyos, ha'echad acheret kan niftach, v'hasheni nishar shelcha niftach. V'ein ken tefei haya lomar sheha'issur b'chelek shenechtach yechalek zeh harov neged hakavua shani. Al ken tzarich lomar kemo shetiretz Maharai, shesvara hu shehu b'chelek hanishar kayam. Doesn't want to say it's called kavua, because they're too... he wants to apply kol deparish. So explain. Let me see how you explain that. Let me see if I had to give you a bechinah and tell you to explain it, would you understand what you're talking about? Let's see, explain. So you know what? Let's get the story. What's the story? Give me the story. Give it to me easy, all right? You have a blender. A blender is... Let's just say it's a blender. Why can't you give it not blender? Because the Gemara is talking about blender, right? It's not... It's a chatichah cut up, not blender. It fell inside. It fell inside a mixture bowl, and then it got cut up somehow. Okay. So you're saying now what got cut up? It was a charal? Yeah, piece that fell in was a charal. Okay, and it fell into what? A mixture of charal. So not... Okay, so you have charal falling into charal. Because if it's not falling into charal, you can just easily take it out. That's right. Right. You see, then take it out. Right. So obviously it fell into a... and then everything was chopped up except one piece. So you're saying the only thing that's allowed is this one piece. And the only thing that's...

The loud is this one piece. Why? Because this piece... You said everything is chopped up except for this one? Yeah, you press the blender button and everything got chopped up except one piece. You stopped it in the time where... Everything that's chopped up is... No, everything chopped up is asur. Is asur? And everything, and whatever is left is left. Why? Because manafshach. If you say kol deparish... No, the Shulchan Aruch says it's because of... I'm just explaining the Shulchan Aruch. Yeah, oh, so go ahead. The Shulchan Aruch, yeah. Because of manafshach. If it's the issur, then it should be af kulam mutaros, then it should be other ones. How do you know? If you can tell me the piece that's left is asur, then even the other ones should be also asur. And if you're going to tell me it's not asur, then it should be allowed because nitchatchu ruban, most of them were chopped up. We don't say that issur me'arov shenitchatchu, ela kol shenitchatchu mutarot vhashlemot asurot. No, he's saying the opposite now. Everything that's chopped up is allowed. Right, that's what I told you. Everything that's chopped up is allowed. Everything that's chopped up is... So I wrote that, right? Go ahead. Daminan lachatichah... Okay, so this is the Taz, yeah. So what is the Taz bothered by? Taz says, why can't you say it's batel b'rov, even though he's going on the shleimos? Why can't I eat the shleimos also? Yeah, let him eat the shleimos. They should be batel b'rov. Because it's kol deparish me'ruba parish. Kol deparish me'ruba parish. Since rov was... And since the rov were charalos... I thought only one piece was charal. I thought rov was not charal. To read it again, I don't think we're getting this case again. Okay, if nitchatchah achat, ein tolin... nitchatchah achat from what? From the mixture. It fell in, that's what I'm saying, and he's already picking up in the middle. He's not telling you the case of what happened before. Yeah, so what is it? Maybe it's picking up from the last piece. Do me a favor, take out the Aruch HaShulchan and let's see, because... You know, I think part of the problem with this mechaber is, is how to read the mechaber. That's really the problem. I think it's picking up on the last seif. What is the last seif? The last seif is talking about that, ... אבל אם נתכוון... So what's the story, though? Most of them were charal, so most of them were not charal, so they were all charal? What's the story? That's not clear, right? Okay, so let's read Darkei... He's telling us to go to Zvachim. I'm not sure what's going on in Zvachim. Let's look it up. Okay, before Zvachim, let's not get shas. We're not Polish Jews here; we have to run around shas. Go ahead. Go ahead, no? ... חתיכה אחת, אין תולין לומר... Okay, is that what you see over here in the Shulchan Aruch? ‘Chatichah achas’ doesn't say one. Yeah, why? Yeah, why? You should be good. So one, yeah, yeah. Okay. אין תולין לומר שהאיסור נחתך ומבטל, ויהיו כולן מותרות, אלא אותה שנחתכה בלבד מותרת. The one that got cut up is mutar. Okay. Yes. ... אם האיסור ... אף כולן מותרות. Because it was this chatichah, so it's finished. ... הרי היא מותרת. ... הרי היא מותרת, because it's anyway mutar, yeah. אפילו נחתכו רובן, אין תולין לומר שהאיסור מהרוב נחתכו. We don't say that the issur is from the rov nichtechu, yeah. על הכל הנחתכו מותרות, והשלמות אסורות. Okay, good. So the Gra learns like this Gemara in Zevachim that says if it was chavis shel trumah shenit'arvu b'mei chaviyos, v'naflah achas meihen layam hamelach, patur kulan. Now, amrinan hacha nafal, d'isur nafal. Right. Seemingly he's learning from this Gemara. And the case would be that one piece, one issur, like I was saying, that fell into a lot of pieces, and one of them got lost. I learned this sugya different. I don't know how you learned it that way. I learned it the other way around. You cut up one, and the rest are. Now what are the rest? He explains, the rest are shleimos. This becomes mutar b'mamash. So how do you learn that last? V'ha-shleimos asur.

Yeah, that's what we're saying. Everything is aser except for this cut-up piece. Oh, right, right, right. That's what I was learning before. Okay, so I'm happy that we got it straight, because you see, you started to fatumel me, and I go, What? Okay. All right, tell him to read Darchah Shulchan, and that should be a lesson to in reading. Whenever in doubt, go straight to Darchah Shulchan, because he was a genius in rewriting the Shulchan Aruch clearly. He was a genius. Because each one will say it's from this piece. We'll say the nechitos from this piece. No, this becomes mutar, because now this is chatichah is mutar, right? No, that's how I was reading the first time. The first time I read it was that way. Okay, good. I'm happy that you read it. Go ahead, yeah. Because each one will say it's from this issur, now you cut it, so it's not issur anymore. He's allowing you to eat the whole—oh, because it's cut up now. It's not any more chashuv, and if it's not from the issur, so then you're good to go anyway. What's the difference? Okay, but it's mashma the rest of them are what? Asur. Question is, keep on reading the mechaber, keep on reading, yeah. Why are the rest of them asur? Why don't we say each piece, this is from that, and now you're just matir that piece? Why the cut-up doesn't matir each piece? Okay, this is from here, okay, it's mutar. This is from here, it's mutar. This is from here, it's mutar. Go ahead, keep on reading. Says Mariabu. Go ahead, yeah. Says the Taz. So the Taz says, why don't we say batel b'rov? What should be batel b'rov? So according to Taz, it doesn't make sense. I'm sure it does. What should be batel b'rov? Meaning each piece, all the pieces are shalem. Only one is charal. So what should be batel b'rov? Everything is charal. No, so this memanafshach should become aser b'bitul b'rov. So he's asking on the Mechaber. Right, so why is this thing kosher, this piece? Why do we say bitul b'rov? It's not batel b'rov. How can it be aser? Even the charal piece should also be aser? Yeah, because it's batel in the rov, no? And rov was what? Rov was aser. It's not; it's called the parish. And the answer is called the parish. Mi'ruba parish. So on the ones that are there, right, so you have a safek. What is he called? Called the parish from what? Saying most meat is kosher in the house, that's what you're saying? No, called the parish mi'ruba parish means, you don't know the sveikos of the meats, so they remain aser. This one that got cut away, that will be mutar because called the parish from the rov that was not charal. But the rov that—I'm sorry—whatever is there is aser because of safek charal. Huh? There's one piece of chaser. One piece of chazah. So how many become aser because of the charal? Because of that charal. Everything becomes aser because of the charal. The one that's parish from that is miruba parish mutar. The question is, how could the other ones be aser because of the charal if rov is not? To the point that we say, called the parish, miruba parish. You're saying because there's two pieces. And that's the answer, because somehow, because of kvius, I don't know, it's aser. But it doesn't take away the problem, safek charal, no. That's really the question, okay? That's the whole sugya. More than this, I don't even have to teach it. This is what it is. Did you understand that? No. So could you repeat it to him? No, because it's a hard case. You have to do it a thousand times till you get it. Okay, this last נקודה that we're saying, we said the whole thing is aser because of charal, right? So charal is not even... The one that came out is called the parish mirov. Rov is not charal. Rov is kosher, only one piece. One piece of... Yeah, but charal fell in there. It doesn't matter. We say charal is not... and the rest is allowed, so then what's the shayla? What was cut up is allowed. Why? Also the shayla isn't that no one is allowed, okay? Why is it allowed? Because it was separated. Right. Chopped away. So he's saying, why can't the other pieces...

One question is, why can't you say the other pieces in that? I mean, why it's allowed, first of all? He says, Parsh mirov heter, right? How could it be rov heter and still be aser? Can you explain it to me? Because we said, parah afilu b'elef... It's not, it's chopped up already. That's just one piece is chopped up. No, but it's from the rov. You're matir this with rov of heter if it's not rov heter; you just call me it aser. I have sixty pieces of heter charal. I have one— Not charal, heter with charal. Yeah, heter charal. Heter with charal. It's mutar to get one charal in there. But they're all charal. Yeah, because of the issur. No, no. If it's not charal, you can easily figure out which one is charal. Yeah, that's my point. Everything has to be charal. Everything is charal. It's mixed in together. That's why you can't see which one it is. The one that gets chopped up is allowed because of... That's what I'm saying. So we have to— you don't know which one's a charal. Right, I have fifty pieces, let's say, of kosher heter things that are charal, whatever it is. Water too— whatever it is, and one of them is issur, which is charal. You can't tell. Let's say it's hot. I say it's called the parish of that, so how could that be aser and this be mutar? It's called the parish meruba parish. So because majority of the pieces in there were kosher, so that's why this remains kosher also. Ah, but why can't you say majority of the pieces that are kosher also should be kosher, the other pieces? Because of the other pieces. Because the other piece also because of rov. No, the other piece cannot be kosher because of kavua. Kavua, called kavua kemechtza al mechtza dami. Anything that is in a stagnant place, it's got fifty-fifty, and it should be... Okay, vayter. So what's the— I don't know what you mean. At the end of the day, it's a safek. I don't see what— Rabbi wants to apply the Rama from sif aleph. It's not me, I mean it's pashut. It needs to be explained. Okay, continue. Ayin sham. Ayin Pri Toar. He's arguing on the Rama? Feel— go read it. Go ahead, read it. You don't have the Pri Toar, sif katan yud? There's no Pri Toar. They took them out. They took out all the sefarim. It's terrible. What do you mean? How could they took it out? They make all these different prints now. They put them maybe in— What is it, the dirshu, Shulchan Aruch? They all jumped on the bandwagon. I mean, Pri Toar was one of those classic sefarim. It's got to be there. It's got to be. What would the pritor? It's there, of course, the baki in pritor. Are you dizzy? Why are you dizzy? I don't know, just maybe I just... just a little bit. Take two Reb Chaim Kanievsky's and you'll feel better. Call me in the morning. Yeah, yeah. Get a Rav Victor Miller and a Reb Chaim Kanievsky book and call me in the morning. Yeah, you do like... Can I ask for another question? What a coincidence. I saw you carrying it, and I said that you have it, and you have it. What a coincidence. Very good. Excellent. Okay, go ahead. Yeah, you don't have it? Okay. So let's discuss here: how many shleimos are left? Called the parish merubah parish, right? What happens if I cut them all up? Put everything in the blender, and only one remains. One remains. What is it? Should be aser. Called the parish merubah parish. So what should be aser? Which one should be mutar? Everything's chopped up, only one remains. Everything should be mutar, right? The one that remains says no. Even the one that remains is aser. Even the one that's chopped up is aser? Everything is aser. The one that remains shalem, even if one remains shalem, remains aser. And the mixture becomes mutar. Why is he saying this in reverse? Huh? Because the lashon of the Shulchan Aruch is nish'aros, right? It's mashma plurals. What happens if it's even only one left? See, you want the reading. You see, you can't blame me. You asked, I delivered. You want pilpul? You can go to Orach Chaim and Chofetz Chaim. You want lomdus? You can go to Beis Medrash Gavoha. You want reading, which is what you asked me, that I'm going to do for you till you can't take it anymore. Could you read the Shulchan Aruch one more time?

אותה שנדחתה בלבד, מותרת ממה נפשך. אם היא של איסור, אף כולן מותרות, ואם אינה של איסור, הרי היא מותרת, ואפילו נדחתו רובן, אין תולין לומר שהאיסור מהרוב שנדחתו, אלא כל החתיכות מותרות והשלמות. שלמות. שלמות. Mot. Mot is singular or plural? And that's why the Pri Toar says, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, read, even if it's one, which means everything becomes mutar, except for this poor piece over there. So again, the rov, who cares? Nobody's interested. All the parishes are all mutar. Right. They're all mutar. I don't care. One remains asur because it's shalem. Wow. Go ahead, continue. יד יהודה. Right. דהשתא חתיכות האחרונות... So it's going to go back and make them mutar, because called the parish, ברובא דפריש. If rov of them are chatichah and kosher... So this one came out. That's what I was saying. So very good. Everything should be mutar. Everything should be mutar. Isn't that what you were saying? That's whenever we cut most of them. Okay, so change it from יד יהודה to יד ניסן. היד ניסן חולק על הפרי תואר. Okay. ... חתיכות, והחתיכות הינן ראויות, מותרות ממה נפשך. ... אפילו חתיכה כל החתיכות. לא אמרינן כל החתיכות מותרות. Okay, this is a mistake. It's really the Yad Yehuda, okay? The Yad Yehuda. Okay, just ignore this because I was sleepy when I did it. The Yad Yehuda cholek, the shtei chatichos. Go ahead. Ayin Mishpat Tzof. What happens if now they all got mixed in? The cut-ups got mixed in together with what was left back home to aser. Go ahead, so read it. Mishpat Tzof. No? No, nobody wants to read it? Once I'm trying to understand it. The chatichos are mutar. What happens if they all got mixed in now? They all went back into one big— you cut it, and they all fell back in together. But the cuts are there in a rei'ut, so. See, the chatichos ha'einam re'uyim mutaros, v'hacharalos asuros. No, it's kol deparish me'ruba parish, but it went back. What happens then? Let's say you have kol deparish me'ruba parish, and then it went back into the stores, מה? Ah, I see. Meaning right now, before it got mixed with everything, it got chatich, and then it went back into the mixture. What happens? Sif se'if da'as sif katan beis says— I'll tell you the truth, I don't know what it— again, maybe in my head, you know, so maybe it's all right, so fix it. Go ahead, yeah. Go ahead, yeah. Why? Because now mixed up, the chatichas went back in, right? Okay. Chatichas hamutaros now got mixed in with the chatichas asuros. Okay, but what's the problem? What's the problem? The problem with this is it's the same author. It's a big problem. The Mishpat Zahav is the same author as the Sifsei Daas. Now, if he was a person that hangs around our yeshivas, he could just say it's hatmarah. One day he says this, and the next day he says the opposite. But this is a very big problem, right? This can't really— I don't have an answer. It's a very big problem. I don't know the answer to this question. I've asked great giants of Jewry, and they don't have an answer for me. Maybe it's very hard to know the sugyas, and that's why it's hard to get an answer. Okay, go ahead. Could you read it? Go ahead. Sifsei Daas? Sif katan beis? The beginning of the siman? I think so, but maybe I'm wrong about that also, because my number system is off. Go ahead. Maybe it's yud beis. It's possible it's yud beis. Yud beis? There's no shach on our seif, so I'm not sure which one would be.

There's no shacharis. There's no shacharis. Tell me, that cheating book that you have, does it bring this Sifsei Daas? I left it upstairs. Okay. You know what? Bring the Badei HaShulchan, and let's find where this Sifsei Daas is. Harav... also. Who? Harav who? Harav Brura, that one. Who's... oh, Harav Brura, that boy, yeah, the book. Okay, bring the Harav Brura. Yeah, bring it, bring it. Harav Brura is better. It's easier. Go ahead. No, the Harav Brura? No. Who? I have no idea. He retired, no? He's not a rav anymore. He's smart, man. He signed, it's a disease to be a rav. He freed himself from the disease called rabbanus. And he sits and writes sefarim that people are going to learn for hundreds of years. He did a smart thing. Stam, he's right, and that's what he's doing. He took off to write. Ah, another one. They're all coming. They're all coming, all the cheating books. Go ahead, yeah. Okay, so find me this Mishbetzos Zahav, and find me this Shach. Kash I've asked many. There's a story about the rest of it. How did I come to this? Not through Yoreh Deah. I came through Shev Shmaitsa. This is all Shev Shmaitsa talking. Okay, go ahead. Read, yeah. This is the Rebbe himself. This is the Rebbe himself. He's the one... Yeah, he's the one who discovered this ... and made this ... You have it? You have it? All right, let me see. Let me see what's going on. When are we getting the halacha bruros? What is...? Perfect. Beautiful. It couldn't be better. Oh, this is typed well, written. It's fine. Brilliantly written. Amazing. Okay, let's see what we have. Ein tolim... im... Ein tolim... This is that groin. ... I was ..., right? Yeah. Oh, you see? He was making fun of me. All right. ... I'll tell you. ... You see, ... daf sif katan beis. I was sif katan beis, right? Yeah. Oh, you see? He was making fun of me. All right. ... V'af al gav d'kol makom tolin b'rov, yesh lomar ad rabah, kol shenishtanu mikadmuto min harov hu, hu kemo ... parshah, v'nimtza sheha'isur shehu hamu'at lo nishtaneh v'lo hu parish mikadmuto. This is telling me, v'chein Olam Pri Megadim, se'if katan beis. He's good. He's good. No, he's good. This guy's יודע how to learn. This is the kashya in the reverse. It's good. Go ahead, yeah. I know how to learn, my friend. This guy knows how to learn. It's a hard halacha. That's what he's saying. What does he mean? You know, he doesn't want to make the... What does he... In fact, that does... Oh, it does be good. See, he brings Pri Toar right here. Yeah, here it is, Pri Toar. I told you. Everybody brings good stuff. Pri Toar, here we go. Guy's good. This guy's good. Baruch Hashem.

Daled. Mishpatzai zav siman kuf yud daled. That's the first one? Okay. Kuf daled. Ay, ay, ay, ay. So is this the lashon, im kulan ra'uyin litkabel, af shenit'arvu b'oydan b'cheskas kashrus? That's it. That's it. Where is it? Daled. I was right, no? I was right. There was no stuff. My lebed. So the problem is that the Pri Megadim says one thing, and he argues with himself in siman kuf yud beis. Don't have an answer. Next. Yeah, it's a... I don't know. I don't know. You know, you got to know the sugya so well to answer kashyos. I mean, I have a lomdish svara, but you're not going to be happy with it. It's Shev Shmaitsa lomdus. It's a very lomdish svara. Maybe I'll sell it to you and you'll see if you buy it, okay? If not... because the truth is, it's called the parshah merubah parshah. You won't like it. Okay, go ahead. Yeah. If beheima achas, if all these things are from all one beheima, lo amrina miktzas mutar u'miktzas asur. Really? Oh, really? How could you have one animal, one piece, and some of it's mutar, some of it's asur? What happens? You like that svara. He says it. You know that he says it. You learned this? So go ahead, read it, please. B'chavot. ... chati charuy liskabes only on food; it's on chaburah also. Go ahead. B'chavot. Okay, just get to where he brings the Taz, siman kuf yud, se'if katan hei. He brings it? ... Okay, and ... kuf yud, okay, ve'im nichtchu harov ... Okay, so let's get to the point. The point is, could you come and say— That miktsasa mutar, miktsasa aser. How could that be such a thing? Maybe just an aser part. So you can't... one animal. One animal. Yeah, you have one animal, but I'm saying that there's this superimality. You can't... But not in the chaticha that becomes mutar and that becomes aser. How could you have a chaticha of something that it becomes mutar, while when it's a chaticha of this and this is aser? Eshkol cholek. Eshkol says it could happen. The pitchei teshuva brings this machlokes, no, about the kufiud. Yeah. About one animal. Yeah. Good. How is it possible? It's a whole big... yeah. But it's a Taz. Okay. So let's talk l'maaseh. You know what the l'maaseh, this whole story is? You know, I could not tell you the chiddush that I have, or I could tell you the chiddush I have that you won't understand it anyway and you could work on it, whatever you want me to tell it to you. You know what the real story is? The real...

The real story is, and I think I found that, if I remember correctly, in the leshonos of the Shulchan Aruch, the safek lefaneinu. How do we look at this? Do we look at each piece as a safek by itself, or do we look at it as one big shaila with many different parts? Are we done everything? Okay, this piece, okay, how about this piece? How about that? What's left? What's not left? Or do we look at the entire thing? And the question is, how could it be this is called a parish while this is kavua if it's in the same pot? That's what I brought. Have a nice day. Could you explain to him? Could you tell him so he can enjoy it also? Because what I'm doing, because it works the other way around, that this is called a parish, maybe it should matir the other ones. Yeah, what I'm trying to say is the real need and back and forth of all this is, do we chop up the two sugyas, that the chatichah is one sugya and this is another sugya, according to some yes, according to some no. And all this is dependent on that question. Or do we look at it as one big safek now, and the question is, so whatever this is, this must be, or whatever this is, this must be, whatever the rov is. How could you have one miktsas from one beheima, is one piece of meat turns into five different sugyas? Did you understand what I just said? That's so clear. Could you explain to him instead of telling me Rabbi Reisman, because I don't— Hello, he asked him a question on this smicha, and he told him, what is the case if somebody takes a meat, a ben yomo milk from the spoon and puts it in one of the chicken soup and at the same time in the meat soup after that? Right. And he said, you wanted to hear that this should be true. How can one spoon be mutar by most of the Rabbanan and one— Exactly. Now, what I want— Father, daven, I'm busy now. You got to give me one more minute because he doesn't understand what I just said and it's causing me great anguish. Okay, can you tell him, because I see you're smiling from ear to ear because I taught you good stuff, but he's not enjoying it, so tell it to him. Can you tell it to him? I'm not sure if I can. You could. You have to, otherwise what's the point? If you can't say it over, I'll tell it to him to say it. Okay, go ahead. I'm not sure if I can say it over. You have to. Okay, you have to. Everyone, say it one more time. Okay, the point is, you have a weird story here where in one pot this piece— okay, that's called the parush— this piece is kavua, it's in the same pot. Right. This one— and according to this it's the same animal, one chaticha. How could you sit there and say, and therefore if this is mutar, then this is from here, this turns into mutar? How could it— And the question is, if I take this and I put it back in now, what happens? Yeah, but it is there. What do you mean, it's there? How can one thing in one animal, part of it could be kosher, part of it could not? In one safek issur, we sit there and say this dot of it is parush and this dot is not parush. So how do we do it? And the answer is that's what the shaylah is. The question is, could the rest of them remain aser if one of them is there? So we don't say, kol d'parish. What happened to the... I don't say they're all kosher besides this piece. That's the machlokes. All these halachos are talui. Could we separate each thing? Okay, this, okay, okay, this is different than this. This is different than that. Or maybe we can't do that. He's running away. I'm gonna have to run אחרי. Okay, one sec. Where you go? What? No, no, I want to hear what. Oh, because you said you have to go. Maybe I have to go there also. You sure? It's like a fire or something that everyone has to leave? Your boss. Who's your boss? Your mom? Yeah, really? Which restaurant do you work in? Bravo. It's a kosher restaurant. Yeah? So why don't you bring me some food from there? No, pizza. That's what, it's a pizza store. It's pizza and also a restaurant. They don't have any fish or something, or chicken? They do have fish on top of the pizza.

I never had fish and chips. I never had fish and pizza. All right, so tomorrow you working, tomorrow you boss? Okay, so maybe your boss owns you. I thought maybe he owns you from now on. I thought maybe he owns you, that whatever he calls, you have to run, huh?