Hilchos Vestos: Re’iyah Near Netz HaChamah, Safek Day or Night, and Onas HaVeses

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Regilah liros b'netz hachamah, v'lo kimlon shapir, d'kodem hanetz hachamah, oy achara, eina asurah ela bayom. She's only asur by day. Eina asurah ela bayom. When you read this mechaber, I just want to tell you that there was a diyuk that we made. Baruch Hashem, Baruch Hashem, I saw that there's a chiluk between the Chavas Daas and the Seder Taharah, how to read this mechaber, and key issue is the words that we were medayek. So obviously we were heading in the right direction. I'll just tell you now the diyuk, and later we'll discuss the Chavas Daas and the Seder Taharah. V'lo kimlon. V'lo kimlon. We don't know. I mean, what does it have to do with we? It has to do with her. I mean, v'safra lah, she counts. I mean, it's about her. It's not about us. We have to know if it's when it is. What does it have to do? And the Rav doesn't know when her nidah is. What does that have to do with it? It has to do with her. It has nothing to do with the Rav. The lashon of the Tur is v'lo kim lah. Lah. See? You see? Good, good. You and I, we also spoke about this last year, if you remember. We started this. We're going to get back to this. And the reason why I say it now is to show you that, Baruch Hashem, we're doing right, we're learning. And I don't care to let the world collapse around me. We're going to do the right thing. I don't care. That's the way I am. We're going to do what's right, and we're going to win. Now, where does this mechaber come from? Is it a Gemara? No, it's not a Gemara. So if you look right away, the Be'er Hagolah: Tur, b'shem haRashba. No, wrong one. Zayin, zayin. Tur v'Rosh, b'shem haRavad. The Tur, the Rosh. So this is your Be'er Hagolah. You see over there? Be'er Hagolah. Now why do I tell you to look there? Who cares? I always tell you to look at the Be'er Hagolah. And the answer is because it's not so clear. It's not so clear that that's what the Rosh says, b'shem the Raivid, b'shem the Tur. It's not so clear that that's what it is. D'hainu, it's not so clear that the mechaber that's posek officially according to the Rosh is really quoting the Rosh the way the Rosh is. That what? That you only have to be choshesh eina asurah ela bayom. Right? We're soon going to learn this, that it's not so pashut. It's not so clear that this is really what the Rosh said. We'll still see the Teres HaShlomim. We'll discuss it, that that's not exactly what the Rosh said. It's possible the Rosh said the exact opposite. Different girsaot, different ways to read the Rosh. Okay. The Taz, and the reason why I say now the Taz without getting back to this point of the Rosh, because first let's get the information. Says the Taz, asur balayla. Why? No, wrong one. Ela bayom, excuse me. Why? Dekeivan d'bayom al kol panim teme'ah hi, since bayom she's anyway tamei, al kol panim, talinon techilas ha-kalkalah gam kein bayom. Does anybody have a translation to the word talinon? You might know what it means. What is talinon? Maishlino? Assume. Ooh, assume. You would translate it assume? Assume, assume. Tag it. Hang it. Probably. You're saying assuming, probably.

What are you saying? We put it at that, toleh, talinan. You're both not wrong. You're both not. You have to know what this Taz is talking about. It's very important. It's a very yesoidisdike Taz. Just the reading of the words. What does he mean by talinan? What does he mean? Does talinan mean, since this is vadai, so what's vadai is vadai? No. You know, in Yiddish there's an expression, vaz zicher is zicher. What's sure is for sure, right? So why go look for what's safek meaning, meaning? We're only going to give her one veset. We're only going to give her one. So it's either the night before or the day after, the morning after. So what's for sure is for sure. That's a nice way to read the Taz, no? Can I ask you two questions? One is, why would the Taz not write that? Write something completely different. He says something completely different: talinan, techilas ha-kalkalah. What does techilas ha-kalkalah have anything to do with this? Kalkalah? What is kalkalah? Do you know what the word kalkalah means? Destruction, damage. What is he saying? What do the words mean? Talinan, techilas ha-takalah, gam kein, gam kein, gam kein ba-yom. I mean, it's not even gam kein. It's what it is. Since it's ba-yom, so therefore it's ba-yom. What do you mean, talinan techilas ha-kalkalah? It's strange language. I'm going to show you. That is a halacha that you might not know. And once you know this halacha, you'll say, wait a minute, the Taz is saying something completely different, and it has nothing... You know what halacha it is? What? Usually we base things that because of the... and here he is, he's saying, talinan. That's what he's saying. Talinan b'bayom. This way he answers up the shaila, what do we mean? Maybe she really saw at night, so she should really be an onenes. You mind if I just say different words like this? It'll be clear. Does anybody know what ka-nimtza kan haya means? Ka-nimtza, kan haya. Whenever there's a safek, you know what we say? Ein lecha ela ma she-safek mochiach. Ka-nimtza, kan haya. D'keivan d'biyom al kol panim tamei hi, since by day is vadai, talinan techilas ha-kalkalah gam kein biyom. Kan nimtza, kan haya. I like it. You know why I like it? Because when I read it, the years of information start to say, wait a minute, the words of the Taz is not the way everybody thinks the Taz is saying. You can't say that, since it's a vadai and safek. He doesn't talk about safek. He doesn't say that. That's not what he's talking about. You know what he's talking about? Eliezer, talinan techilas ha-kalkalah, which means, kan nimtza, this is for sure, so we'll leave it at that. Techilas... when did it start? I don't know, so leave it, I don't know, leave it alone. Kan nimtza, kan haya. Yes. Is that enough of a reason for the Taz to pasken that, or there has to be something more behind it? That's the reason. In all sefeikos it's that way, in all sefeikos, kan nimtza, kan haya. Okay, so I'm going to tell you two things. First, I disagree with you vehemently. I think the Taz is even and only because it's veses d'Oraisa, he gives me a d'Oraisa-type reason. Because you know what the shach's reason is? Safek d'rabbanan l'kula. At the end of the shiur, I'm going to say this. I believe that the shach's is a very simple thing. Since it's a safek, and this is d'rabbanan, the Taz isn't gore. You know why? The Taz is saying you need the ra'isa reason. Kanimtza kan haya. Whenever you have a safek, that's what it means. Kal vachomer means that the problem begins from when we see the problem, not further than that. Kanimtza kan haya. Fakert, I believe, klor, as I will say in the end of the shiur, that the Taz is trying to give me a reason which would even work mid'Oraisa. Now I want to tell you something, a second point, which I told you besides the reading of the Taz, yeah. Can you explain to us this kanimtza kan haya? Why do we say such a thing? Yeah, because the word kanimtza kan haya means— So why should we assume? Because— So let me tell you a moydike yesod. Now you notice I'm really trying to stay away from the lomdus that's going, you know, there's things speeding through my mind and I'm controlling myself. I'm really controlling myself.

I'll spit it out just because you asked me. When the safek is anyway, all right, so then we don't say kan nimtza kan haya, because why should we say that? But when the safek is nolad from the metzius, then we have to say that only from when we see the metzius it's nolad and not before. Kan nimtza, from here it's found. This is where it started, so kan haya. Techilas hatakalah is where. It's kan nimtza, right? So whenever we have issur, then it's kan nimtza kan haya. The concept of kan nimtza kan haya means that since the nimtza makes the safek, so then we can't say ein li bo ela ma kan haya, like ein lecha bo ela chidusho, that's the way it is. Now there's two other things here that you have to read in the Taz. I want you to understand this. Two other things that you have to read in the Taz. I don't understand the whole sugya here. If there's a safek that it might be earlier, right? What do you mean talinan b'yoim? What are the words talinan b'yoim? What do you mean b'yoim? Talinan from when it might be. What does the word b'yoim mean? Why is it about yoim? Also, I mean it's not about talinan. In other words, what are we saying? Talinan b'yoim, since we don't know when, so we'll take on that it's b'yoim, because b'yoim she's vadai asur. The talinan is on the happening. The bayoyim is on the zman. Talinan is a— kalkol is a happening. When you talk about a happening, there's no reason to say, therefore talinan the zman of it. Huh? But you're missing, but you're missing, you're missing. You're working it the other way around. Since she's anyway asur, it's not the other way around. Since she's anyway asur bayoyim, memeila the maiseh is also bayoyim. It's the other way around. You don't see it. Since she's asur bayoyim, so the issur bayoyim is what's causing that we should say it's bayoyim. It's not true. It's not because she's asur bayoyim. It's because between the two days, the later is more shchiach. That's all it is. It's not about bayoyim. How is it different than saying tafasta merubah lo tafasta? Yeah, that's exactly what I'm asking. Why couldn't that just be the reason? The reason should be is the latest time possible. Why is it a lashon, since she's anyway asur bayoyim? Since she's— so therefore it will be toleh that the kilkul of her is— It doesn't match. It's not about— it's two different things. Since she's anyway asur bayoyim. You know what it should have been? Since anyway, meaning since the later of the two times is more definite, so it's not about the issur of the— it's not about the yom. Okay, let me just tell you what I want, and then we'll go back to the easy part, because I don't want to lose everybody. I hold, emes la'amito, and I'm going to prove it to you over and over again. Vezartem es bnei Yisrael mitumosam is not about the maaseh. Veset is not about the maaseh of the nidus; it's the yom. There's a yom issur. We're kovea yom issur. You know, just to throw you out the last part of the shiur to show you, like, because it's easy, you'll understand what I want. When does a day begin? When does a day begin? Night or morning? And here it begins where? By VaYikra, yeah? You know who discusses this? Everybody. Everybody discusses on this halacha. Sifrei Tahar and the Chavos Daas, they all ask the same question: when does— I mean, what do you mean talilah? You have to start from the day of her veses, but it's the night before the day of her veses. No, for veses it's different. What? So what do you see from here? The Acharonim are asking this yesod. Why do you start the onah from the night? Dinim in yom, and there's a yom to it. We're going to get to this. Listen carefully. We're going to get to this. This is Sifrei Tahar.

Now you know where I'm getting at? No, but now you know what I mean by, you have to define. What? No, but you hear what I'm trying to teach you now, something. It's not about nida, it's about yom vest. Since me'eil, the issur is on the day for sure, so meila talinan techilas ha-kalkalah by yom. Okay, now let's stop with all the lomdus, which I don't really think is lomdus; I think it's just reading the text, but all right, let's call it lomdus. Now let's hear a little further. Shach, in sif katan yud-gimmel, says, According to this, taz comes out an interesting chiddush. What would it be not if it was b'netz hachamah? What happens if it's bein hashmashos the night before? Who wants to read this Shach? Who wants to be zocheh, b'kabbalas haTorah, to read the Shach? Who? Sif katan yud-gimmel. ... Therefore it's safek d'rabbanan l'kula. Oh, continue. Did you notice, vadai also, vadai mi'meini data? I thought it was an interesting diyuk here. Rafi, you caught on to that after what I was saying? You saw the notes? What? Who had the notes? Oh, the stuff on the bottom, you mean. Okay, good, good. You should have said, mi'kol makom, hayom haya vadai b'meini data, but it says b'meini data. You gotta learn what it means to read. If you have to carry me out on a stretcher, kicking and screaming, I'm not gonna give up. I won't give up. That's it. This is the truth. I'm not gonna lie to you. You gotta read what it says. You got it. I'm sorry. Taz talks about the issur. Shach talks about bimei. It's talking about the day. Bimei, it's about the yom. The yom. The yemei nidah. It's more about the day than the issur. Okay, continue. Go ahead. מקום היום היה ודאי מן הלילה, מה שאין כן הלילה היה בספק. וכן פירש האחרונים, ולפי זה... says the Shach a chiddush. להלכה למעשה. Same thing applies to bein hashmashos, the night before, yeah? לוקים לה קודם או לאחר הלילה, אין לאסור אלא בלילה. Okay. Now, I have a stam shaila. What, lokin lan? What does it mean, lokin? We don't know. We don't know what bein hashmashos is. That's why I asked you. I'm saying, let's say a woman, you know exactly when. We don't know when bein hashmashos is. Like I said, you have to be patient. Look at it. What does the Shach mean, v'lo kima? What does he mean? Here it says, v'lo kima, ... או אחריו. And the Shach, it's not so clear. What is the kima? Is the kima about going back on the lashon of the mechaber, that we don't know when she saw, before bein hashmashos, after? Is that lo kima, like the mechaber? Like, dilma mayshe, give me another tzad. No? Ilan, you're not with me? You're not with me? Yeah. Good, let's see. Again, the Shach's lashon: V'lo kimlan, i kaidem oi l'achar haleilah. Pashut means she, her, right? Chavos Daas learns like this. Chavos Daas learns the Shach, v'lo kimlan like the mechaber; she doesn't know. Good question, right? Pardes Rimonim learns v'lo kimlan, we don't know. We don't know what bein hashmashos is. We don't know, l'gabei vestes, what do we consider bein hashmashos? V'lo kimlan, it's about us; it's not about her. He goes back on the Shach. He goes back on the Shach, right? I didn't say about nets. I didn't talk about the nets. I'm talking about the Shach. The Shach is the bein hashmashos, v'lo kimlan. But what is v'lo kimlan? Is it the v'lo kimlan? Is the question?

So far, everybody sees now the reading. You know, when I started the shiur, someone said to me, Daled? What are you going to say here? There's nothing here. What are you talking about? I didn't even look at your direction. I love you, I didn't even look at your direction. You want to know something? You have to learn this. You have to. I can't explain to you. I'm not making up anything. I'm not. You know, as the shiur progresses during the year, you'll see, everything I'm telling you, you have to know. You have to. There's nothing to talk about. You have to know this. Otherwise, you're not reading it. You don't want to read it, so don't. If you want to take a Kitzur, say, take out Kitzur and ללמוד. Okay. The Shach paskens like the Mechaber, or he paskens against? Does anybody know? No? So the Shach brings in the Bach. סעיף קטן י״ד, who wants to read? Go ahead, you. I forgot your first name, I forgot. Meir? Oh, שיהא מאיר עיני חכמים. Bach, הלכה. Next one, י״א. אל באיום, הב״ח כתב. Why? If you hold that the cheshbon is that it's derabbanan, why? So maybe he anyway holds. Some want to say that. Is that what he says? ולפי מה שכתבתי לעיל סעיף קטן ז', which is the Arzerua, then it's kol shekein. Mashma that even before the Arzerua. He held that what? You should be machmir. אילם, why? You know, he wasn't a good posek, the Shach. Machmir for what? Chas v'shalom. Tell me, the olam, are you allowed to be mach... Hashem, are you allowed to be machmir? Are you allowed to be machmir hilchos nidah? You know anybody that says that you should? I always learned the opposite. Since it's only vestos d'rabbanan, we're meikel. Isn't that the whole yesod of vestos d'rabbanan? Now the truth is, the Bach is grada shtickel more machmir in all vestos. You know, if you notice, he has a pattern, the Bach. The Bach's pattern is to be machmir. Pattern. He has a pattern. He has a mahalach, like, you know, chumra, chumra, chumra, which means, I would say maybe it was from the Lakewood poskim. The Taz, I guess, was from the Borough Park poskim. Queens. You know, everything's mutar. What? Who said this? Rebbe Vasadot. I understand, but you shtell to the Queens. I want to know if you're quoting a gadol or something. But he says, v'chol shekein, but that's... Right, I understand, but what does he mean? But he's saying, lefi מה שכתבתי לעיל. It's mashma even before the ... there's a cheshbon to be machmir misafek. Why? Yeah, but I'm asking why. Yeah, that's what I'm asking. He didn't say ohr zarua, פי מה ש... Right, but he didn't say yet ohr zarua. You don't see ohr zarua in his words. Wasn't he maskedim with the ohr zarua over there? He said the ohr zarua's reason was... Yeah, but who says this? This. Here, the Bach brings ohr zarua here. Okay, I'd like to look it up. Let's look it up. The Shach in sif katan yud daled: והב״ח כותב דראוי להחמיר מכוח ספק, לחומרא, בין ביום ובין בלילה. If it was because of the ohr zarua, I would like to know that. It doesn't say that. That's not what it says here. Okay, so read it ad rabba. Let's see what the Bach says. Go ahead. Not this one. This one to be machmir in this case. Yeah? Yeah. In other words, he learns the ohr zarua is this chashash because of the netzachamah business. Since she's not sure... So what's the Shach? מכוח ספק. No, the Shach learns the reason for the ohr zarua. Could you just say, tell me clearly: כותב דראוי להחמיר מכוח...

Safik natru. It has nothing to do with the safik. It has to do with the or zarua. Is that what you're telling me? Yeah, but that's not what it says. It says, mikoach safik. Safik of nedachama. Again, so that's what I'm saying. Kivan d'roi lachmi mikoach safik, lesa bayom balayla, which means that is the or zarua. That's what I'm saying. That's how you're learning. Whole guf is the or zarua. V'lefi mah shekasavti l'sif katan zayin, what? How would I explain the or zarua without a veses kavua? Because it's not a veses kavua, because it's entirely... I mean, he's saying or zarua plus. The way I explain the or zarua is kol shekein. Or zarua plus. That's a weird thing to say, no? I mean, if you hold of the or zarua, then you hold of the or zarua. That's what I mean, especially the way I learned the or zarua. What does that mean? I don't mean. I mean, if you hold of the or zarua, you hold of it. No, because he's telling you the only time you have to hold of the or zarua is if you don't have a veses kavua in the day or at night. So over here, where you're not even sure when you saw it, it's a kol shekein you should keep it, because in the case of the or zarua where you hold it, you should be machmir during the day, sometimes you see in the middle, sometimes at the end, sometimes at the beginning. All right. So what's the vav? Let's see R' Akiva Eiger. No, what's the vav here? Hey. That's how it's done. R' Akiva Eiger. Right, so he wants to say it's kavua. Okay, okay, that's fair. I mean, if you hold... I don't want to say it. I was just clarifying that if you learn that it's d'Oraisa, then a chinam, you have to machmir mikoach safik, right? Even if you hold it's derabbanan, then this is about the orsa. Let me ask, let me throw something out. Let me tell you what's going through my mind. You ready? Ilan, Ilan, let me tell you what's going through my mind. Whenever you have a safek, right, you don't know. So the question is, should you be machmir? Should you be machmir, yeah? Should you be machmir and do something here or that, right? No, this or this. Let's say there's something that has a din that it's supposed to be by yom. Something, there's a din that it has to be done by yom, right? And there's a safek l'maaseh what the yom is. Should you be machmir even on derabbanan? Not machmir — should you come and aser b'derabbanan? I'll give you an example. Let me just give you an example. Let's say a person has to wear tefillin. We don't know if netz hachamah, let's say, we don't know when the day starts, right? Are you allowed to wear tefillin early? Bein hashmashos — we don't know what bein hashmashos is, right? You're smiling. Why are you smiling? I just said the sked, bein hashmashos. Let's say bein hashmashos — you want to tell sefira bein hashmashos. Does it make a difference if sefirah is d'Oraisa or d'Rabbanan? So the mems is brought down that you could count earlier, because since sefirah is only d'Rabbanan, so you could do it, right? If a person counted two sefiros, tartei d'sasri, would it work? For example, one night he counts bein hashmashos that it's four, and the next night he counts bein hashmashos that it's— no. What? For the day. It's a problem? Why? It's tartei d'sasri. I'm not saying that one night he did it. One night he counted— I'm saying... So there's a Pri Megadim. The Pri Megadim says you can't do such a thing because it's tartei d'sasri. I mean, make up your mind what bein hashmashos is. Make up your mind. Is bein hashmashos the day before, the day after? I like that.

I like this. So I always ask Reb Dovid Feinstein, and Reb Dovid Feinstein, it's no problem, yotzei. Why? Because the whole yesod of bein hashmashos means that it's a safek, and on any safek you count that it's good, because since it's derabbanan, then it's good. Yeah, tomor even the same day. Why not? That's his telling. That's right. One after another. No problem, tomor. I asked him, I, the Pri Megadim says not like that. He says, okay, you have a point. That's what he tells me. That's how he answers. Okay, so you have a point. It wasn't a get. It didn't faze him at all. You know what I'm doing? I'm wasting time to give you—why you say yeah? I'm not really wasting. What I'm doing is, what I'm doing is, I'm spending time with you to make your mind, what's it called again, adapt to what a bein hashmashos is, and what kind of safek. Is it a safek if I was yotzei or it's a safek—whenever there's a mitzvah that has to be done by yom and it's a safek yom, keep this in mind. I taught this to you. Is veset about the veset or is veset about the yom? The Bach might be saying a mechudash chiddush: ro'i lehachmi mikoach safek. It's only drabbanan. It makes no difference, because be'etzem it's a safek. V'lo kim lon. Who's the—what's the lo kim lon? We don't know. Who doesn't know? Right, she doesn't know. But the question is, so we have to give her a day. What is her day? The yom and the laila, which is when she saw, right? V'lo kim, right? She saw b'hanetz hachamah. You know, we spoke about—what do you mean she saw b'hanetz hachamah? What do you mean? So don't say she didn't see b'hanetz hachamah. You want to know if she saw before or after. What does it mean, רגילה לראות בהנץ החמה, ולא קים לן שפי קודם או אחריו, so then it's not b'hanetz hachamah. Did you read this? You were bothered by this question? Maybe that's why it says— that's why it says b'hanetz. That's why. So that's what it means, b'hanetz, ככה, כך, בהנץ, like כהנץ החמה. She saw כהנץ החמה. It doesn't say בהנץ החמה. You know what I would say? Maybe, and I want you to think about it. She sees taka netz hachamah. How long does netzachama take? Does anybody know? Nothing. What did you just say? How long does netzachama take? Look it up. You're poskening, no? How long does netzachama take? How do we pasken? Okay, could someone look it up for me quickly, quickly, quickly. Dayanim, dayanim hakdoshim, ha'omdim bamromim, bachut chidah v'ein poter. Matai hanetz hachama, kamah zman zeh lokeach? Nu? Nu! I see like retarded. I know, I know. I'm telling you all this stuff outside. Good question, good question. Why is it safek?

Leave us to the end of the shiur. You're in the right direction. She doesn't know, and we don't know what it is. Okay. Listen, listen what we're gonna do. Listen what we're gonna do. There's a machlokes in what's a mi'ut. Some say it's 18, some say 22, some say 24. That means we don't know, be'erech, what's a... Do me a big favor. You're right, this is all good. Listen to me carefully. You have an answer? You have an answer? How much is ben hashmashot? Careful. I was gonna kill myself when I heard you say that's careful. What are you talking about? Ben hashmashot is careful. And even that is not. But the word that everybody's quoting, careful, is ben hashmashot, and that's not be'kerev. What are you talking about? From netz hachamah there's a zman. What is it, 40 minutes? There's a zman for half an hour. From netz... What? Yeah, you sure? That's your homework. No. Okay. Yes, 100%. Okay. What just happened is you have homework. Your homework is to find out what... How long does netz hachamah take? And what does it mean in the mechaber when he says here, ... לראות בין השמשות. ... You know how you guys learned it? Since netz hachamah is one second, so there's no way to know. I would say it's a little different. ... There's a time to know. We like him, lunch happy, but we don't know if she knows what she's talking about. You're shaking. You like it? That's why you're shaking, because I'm also shaking. Okay. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm going to stop bothering you now, because I don't want to go into la-la land for nothing. I have things going through my head. It's not important. Can we just learn the Torah Shlamim, and then they'll, like, finalize? She knows. She tells you the clock. Look, we've trusted, so we trust her. Or maybe we're saying who says we could trust her. She knows exactly the four... There's no... there's no clock. Okay, make up the case. Okay. Can we read now the Torah Shlamim? Okay. B'yom. So first let's do the Beis that he's quoting. B'yom, ayin beis. Mah shekasavnu, pischei teshuvah, mah shekasuv... Milokim lani kodem... ...mishkias hachamah... ...investes... chashvinan mishkias hachamah. Nu! ...ad netz hachamah is laylah. Okay, so from alos till netz is called laylah. So what does he mean? No, so what does he want? What is he trying...? Right. It's not about bein hashmashos. It's perek vaforshki and after shkia. Because if it's bein hashmashos, what is it? It's called laila. Why? Toleh in the sun? Shkia. Mishkias hachamah, it's laila. Why? The sun brings ... What does the sun have to do with anything? Get up and say it again. Get up and say it again. What happens if she saw at that time? It doesn't make a difference. Why? Because it's already not called biyom. But there's a mitzvah like beyom tezvav, and mainly you have to know when the yom tezvav starts. What? No, but vaynit starts by netz. Why netz? Because the answer is why. Because of this. Try to tell you something else. What do we care when the day starts? Isn't it irrelevant? I understand what the vestes is when it comes, it comes. What are you talking about?

For a year since we don't know. Why does the oynes depend on one? Let's say she sees mamash at the last minute, yeah? The last minute of the night, the last minute, the last second. She saw the last second. When is her ones? Why? Why? What does it mean? For karet, she saw a second. Now it's the next day, technically. If you're worried about what she's probably going to see, if you're worried about probability, which day should you worry? The next day. Yeah, whatever it's going to be, nimshachim to shoches has to be shomer. That's the next day. Of course you do. If she sees the second before, and it's not going to stop after a second, it's going to be shomer. That's only because it's shofer. But let's say not. No, but she's regila to see. Bachanes hachamah, regila, she already sees every time like this. Let me ask you a question. Let's say it's one minute before it's over. So when is her ones habes? The day or the night before? So why? What does that mean? Yom, yom, yom, yom hapoisel. Techilas hakalkalah creates a din of yom best, and she has to just be makpid on yom best. That's all. It's about a yom. How does that answer רבי's question? I thought Rabbi was asking me, what's the difference? What I'm asking, I'm not asking why nes. That's not my question. My question is something else. My question is, let's say bein hashmashos. What is bein hashmashos? What is bein hashmashos, yeah? What is bein hashmashos? Yeah, are you with me? Is everybody with me or I lost everybody, huh? I'm asking a simple thing. I'm asking a pshat. How could it be—what? I know. The vest is a talui b'hiluch hachamah. Okay. Now let's look at the Siddur Tairah now that says, What are you talking about? Go ahead. Can you read the Siddur Tairah? No? What did I tell you? Excuse me, did I tell you Siddur Tairah? I meant the part that's from... Look at the part. There's a chiyuv, everybody here. Oh, you know what? Do the siddur. He's more... Okay, do the siddur. Do it. Kitzi brings the chavos daas, no? Oh, he's saying because that's the teva ish, the sun and moon and... okay. Huh? It has to do with the sun, the moon. Chemistry, okay. What are you talking about? Like, he looks like a—what are you saying? What are you talking about? Wait, you became a scientist? Where did you get it from? You had the answer to ... Tamuah, lishmana bishum poisek. What are you saying? Yeah. ... You need give him ... ... at shefizra ... ... Yeah. Can I ask you a question? ... Hours, it depends on the woman, no? It's interesting. A day is a day, right? What happens if it's a shorter day? What happens if it's a longer day? Huh? The hormones change. You know who says this? That's what the Chavos Daas is saying.

Chavsdas has to do with the sun. Hormone u'reshuta. Hormone u'reshuta, okay? The hormones are changing. You know what the Seder Taharah is saying? Rufi, Rufi, what does the Seder Taharah say? A day is a day and a night is a night. What do you mean? It should depend on the science. So either he's saying it's junk science. Maybe he doesn't believe in the whole science, right? Which is mashma. You know what he's saying? I don't really care about that. What is it about? Yom and layla. It's day and a night. It's divided. Either you're in the day group, you're in the night group. That's Yom HaBest. The chiddush of Yom HaBest, the day that it's mistaber to come, that yom. Torah said, v'sartem. You want to know where it all comes from? Okay, you remember the first shiur I gave? What was the first shiur I gave? You remember the first thing I told you? What is v'sartem? Is it a din in it might come and you have to worry, or it's a פירוש לשם פירוש? The day itself is a state that today not. Forget about it might come today. Today is the day that it might come. Teach them. V'sartem is bnei Yisrael, tumas. Keep a day. Keep away an extra day. It's cut up to yom u'valayla. Raffy, get up and tell everybody what I just said. Stand up and tell everybody what I just said. Did you understand what I just said? Okay, shh. I want quiet because I want finalization. I don't want bilbul. Can I tell you the truth? There's a lot of things flying around in my head, a lot, and I'm really working hard to get just the more pashut, pashut, the Chavsdas. You have to know this. Tell me something. Do you have to know this Chavsdas, Seder Taharah? It's yesod of yesod. If I didn't teach it to you, would I be cheating you? Yes, I'd be cheating. I'd be lying to you. I don't know, maybe the cheating book. They bring this Chavos Daas, they bring it? So then, okay, so very good. Okay, go ahead. Second, no? ... We learned how many ... we learned how many ... The chakirah is whether this פירוש is because every second Rosh Chodesh should might come. Since Rosh Chodesh every second, so we extended that chashash for the entire ... It's going to be very hard to explain if it's at the end of the ... or the beginning of the ... why we're only choshesh for that ... not a little bit for the next ... That's what I'm asking. The last minute and all of a sudden, I mean, it's that day. What are you talking about? I don't understand. It's from here on in, you're going to have a problem. That's a pili ploy. That question doesn't bother me. It's a pili ploy. It's a pili ploy. One second, that's it. You know, maybe it's like a ... daka echad bayom is chashuv yom, like yom echad bashanah chashuv shanah. It's ridiculous, right? So what are we saying? However, on the other side of the chakirah, it's not because we're choshesh every second; it's because they were kovea the way to be gozer yourself is to take the entire ... to turn it into asur day. Meila, then you have to know exactly when it starts. Like yom hanaf kulo asur, yom havest kulo asur. You know what yom hanaf kulo asur means? Chadash, the day, whatever it is, that day. It's totally the day. It's not totally not ... it's not totally the day. They took the day, said today's the day that will be makriv, then the day. Yom havest. Oinas havest, what's called oinas havest? Now show it back into the sidrei taharah and the Chavos Daas. The sidrei taharah and the Chavos Daas both ask on the Shach why he says bein hashmashos should really be before shkiah or after shkiah. The first hanachah is because everything is תלוי in the sun. So the Torah says that it's tamur because we don't find any mention of the sun anywhere. But some passages mentions sun. But that could be, says, because it's early days, later days, it has nothing to do with sun. The way that we're learning, however, is because it has to do not with chashash that every second... Rather that the takanas Chazal was that the entire period should be asur, not because of chashash shema yavoi, but because they said that is how you make the geder. You aser the entire period. ... It has to do with the... It's not about the... It doesn't make sense, this geder that they made. If you see that at the end of the day, what makes sense about it? Just at the last minute. That's your day. Why didn't they use the regular standard... Let's say it's nothing to do with the shemesh. They stumbled into... So use the standard thing. The standard boundaries are at sunset and... Why do you do... It should be a certain thing of the day. The standard could be true all around the chashash, but it's not... But still the question that we had still stands, I think. I mean, it doesn't make sense to make the whole day when in reality she sees the last minute. Sure it does.

What if she's two minutes later the next time? It’s at night. It doesn’t make a difference. What is her day? When she marks on the calendar, you know what she marks? The day that she sees. It could be the last minute of that day. She’ll mark on the calendar the 24th. Oh! 24th is Yom HaNafkulios. Now let’s learn a little bit more on the blatt, the information, and yedu chazara, it will all fit depending on how much chazara you’ll do. If you do a little chazara, then it’s going to be me’urafel, and you’ll be mekayem a pasuk, Hashem amar lishkon ba’arafel. You know the pasuk? Who knows where that pasuk comes from? What do you say? What does it say? Hashem amar lishkon ba’arafel. Hashem amar lishkon... It’s one of those classic, very classy person said, you know that. Where did Shlomo HaMelech say it? What? Where did he say? Hashem amar lishkon ba’arafel. Hashem lives... What? No. Okay, but I see that... Malachim, wrong. You’re wrong. It’s not only shiur. It comes to show you that nobody knows. Maybe we should learn Tanach. No, it’s not. Next, you want to try again? I’ll give you 30 more guesses. You’ll eventually get it right. Maybe not even. Divrei Hayamim. Divrei Hayamim repeats over when Shlomo HaMelech put up the Mishkan, he said a tefillah. He was mispallel, vayispalel Shlomo, az amar Shlomo, amar Hashem lishkon ba’arafel. He put the Beis HaMikdash. Oh, זו השלמה. להספלל שלמה את התפילה הזאת. You should read it. It's so beautiful. There's so much poetic Yiddishkeit, poetic beauty, longing for Hashem, longing for Beis HaMikdash, longing to return back to Yerushalayim, in the words of Tanach. If anybody's up to it, I'm there. If anybody's interested in learning Tanach, I'm with you guys. I'm there. If you want, it could be a small shiur every day. We'll learn Tanach. Rafi's asking if he gets smicha on Tanach. That's right. You know what's going to be funny? You know what's going to be very funny? They're going to read the Tanach like you read Tehillim, and they're going to read ... Okay. Now, listen carefully. זו השלמה לשכון בארופ. Hashem lives ... Nothing is clear. You have to work to get it clear. Brirus comes from avodah, work. Okay, now let's just learn a little bit more over here, okay? I'd like to show you a Gilyon Marsha, which caught my eye. Another reason ... Okay, all right. There's another reason why we're toleh bayayin. We have the Taz, toleh mah ha-kalkalah. We have the Shach because of safek d'Rabbanan. Then we have a Gilyon Marsha. You have the Gilyon Marsha there. Where is it? It's on the side. Here, Gilyon Marsha. Ein asurah ela bayayin. Go ahead, Rafi, take it away. Oh no, no, Rafi, wait, wait. Moshe, you want to read? Yeah. Yeah, this side, no? Kivan d'avra layla, v'loy rasa, nisbarer lanu ha-safek, beyadanu re'iyasa acharones, sheb'yom nisnzav. Oy, oy, oy, oy, oy, oy, oy, oy. Rafi, what is he saying? You don't know, so read it again inside. See the light already there. See the shacht sex vacu, you see over there. Very good, very good. Good, I told you, wait, I'll teach you. Just have patience, and learn to enjoy it. The Shulchan Aruch is beautiful. Learn to enjoy it. It's a very difficult word, I know, but that's what it means. It means that the safek starts when she starts to see, and that's called kafkalah. Again, everybody look inside, and whoever gets the answer first wins a prize. I'll tell you what the prize is after you get it. Oh really? You win a prize. Serious, I'm not lying. You win a tremendous prize if you... wait, give out a prize. I think Rafi just... Kivan d'avar ha-layla, kivan d'avar ha-layla, v'loy rasa.

There's a lo no asafi. What is he talking about? There's a suffix when it happened. So, kiman d'amar al laila ... maybe it was the last second. Kiman d'amar al laila, what is he talking about? What is he talking about, Daniel? What? Dayan. DD. You know they used to have DD plates? DD, Daniel Dayan plates. Let's go. No. Gilyon marsha, Gilyon marsha, Gilyon marsha. No, I don't learn. He knew how to learn. What does he say? And he's quoting a Rishon, an earlier Rishon. Huh? Kinyan, what? Go ahead, Nu. What Rebbe was saying. Exactly, yom laila, that's what he was saying. What he's saying is very clear. I asked you a kasha: how could the last minute, how could the last minute? The answer is, he's not telling me this halacha of yom laila. He's talking about the re'iyah. She didn't see all night. She saw, right? She saw in the middle of nowhere, right, when the clock struck one. That means her vest the next day, and that's all. That's what he's saying. She only saw the whole day. She only saw... She didn't see all night. You know what that means? So, but I, she saw maybe the last minute. Exactly not like what I'm saying. He's trying to tell me, don't learn like this. Don't learn like this. Don't learn like this. Learn exactly like I asked you. What does it mean, akai? She saw the last second, her vest that day. That itself is a raya that her vest is not that day. That's what. Because it has to do takah when she's alulah liros, when she's alulah lirot. Kivan d'avar, ha layla v'lo irosa, the night passed and she didn't see, the night passed and she didn't see. I'm going to stop right here. This is where I'm going to stop this shiur. You have plenty what to do. Try to understand what I did. Is there a zman? You know, it also fits in, but I don't want to get into it because it's complicated. Kiveigu it's zman kavua, kiveig has to kasha, charisois u'vayla, rak b'ein lashon kavua ba yom liros. Or even when she does have a shaah kavua liros, it could be when she doesn't have a shaah kavua liros. Then there's a din yom, yom, yom. When there's no shaah kavua, when there's a shaah kavua liros, the yom isn't yom, yom. There's such a thing called progressive vest. We saw this Shabbos, the whole day becomes. Has different machlokes. Why the other? Why the... That's how that works. Two ways how to understand yom vest. Our job is, yom vest is, yom vest is. You see what I showed you from the Rokeach? The Rokeach says that what? The din of the Ravonon, rak b'ein lashon kavua liros. A chiluk between them. Shaah kavua, not—this is the chiluk. If you want to say that the whole day becomes the vest. Then it has not the ... for this. But there's where the shav kavua, then it's the yom where you have the shav kavua. And it can change. But if you asked him ... it's that day, and it could be any time during the day, then it's not so much that it's the yom of the vest; the yom is the vest. There's such a thing called yom ha-vest, yom shehu vest. Stop it. There's no question.