Hilchos Vestos: Veses HaDilug, Establishing a Pattern, and Counting Missed Intervals

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Pay, tasti, pay. Pamim shetia hafloga shekovas boh meves bedilug. So the first thing, you have to know what the sefer is talking about, and the answer is dilug, vesta dilug. This is chapter, I guess, three or four in vestes, which is vest ha-dilug. Dilug means vedolgu alai ahava, to jump. Jumping, right? Medaleg al heharim, jumping. I want you to pay attention to the words of the Chaver. It's Yosef, I love. Not for you. I wouldn't have a reason to live. I don't know what I'd live—what, eat candy bars? What, run to run? I don't eat candy bars. Those days are long, long gone. But what is it? What, to breathe the air of Lakewood? That's not me. But, Yosef, you'll give me life. It's for you, you hear? I want to know why you chose the following way of writing this halacha: Pamim shetia hafloga shekovas boh meves bdilug. Say the opposite: Pamim shetia hafloga bdilug. Pamim shetia hafloga bdilug vkovas boh vest. What do you mean, hafloga shekovas boh a vest is bdilug? I don't say the hafloga is bdilug, but this will be kovea vest. You said it the other way around. The hafloga shekovas boh will be bdilug, which means the interpretation to me is that dilug and not dilug is the same vest. Just that sometimes the kvius sheboi will be b'dilug. You're maskim to the dilug, you made the dilug, is b'dilug. It's not a vest haflagah b'dilug. It's not a vest which גרעדע jumps around. It's the regular vest haflagah, and גרעדע the way it'll be nikva, it'll be nikva b'dilug. Now, does he mean b'dilug in the metzius or b'dilug in the halacha? What's the nafka mina? It's a very big nafka mina. Well, just to throw you out one: what happens if she misses one time? So does she follow the jump, or does she follow the kvius of a jump? Let's say she sees lamed aleph, lamed beis, lamed gimmel, yeah? Then the next month she's supposed to see lamed hei. This is a bad example because it's one day and one day it's a whole machlokes; we'll get to later. But let's say, yeah? Right? So she's jumping one day at a time, whatever. And then the last time she was supposed to jump to lamed hei, she didn't jump to lamed hei. So does she jump the next month to lamed vav? Or does she keep lamed hei because she's jumping one day? Is the kvius havest b'dilug, or is the haflagah b'dilug? Does her kvius to jump, that's her kvius, or the haflagah of jumping becomes her kvius? Don't tell me you didn't think about this, because then I'm going to start getting angry. What? You know the case. Oh, you know the case is here. The case is not anyway; it's in the piskei. It's one of the stories in the piskei. What, it has to be shachar tahor? Oh no, it's acharonim, it's lechem mishneh, it's prei this one, prei that one, prei ... it's prei chameish fasels of dinosaurs, it's prei everything. No, it's the Baal HaShulchan brings it down. I mean, it's the story, it's one of the stories. There's a machlokes in the poskim. Whatever the case, it jumps, and he misses a jump. So the pshat is, you jump two steps, the next, make it with steps. Yesh, yesh, there's eight steps. So every day she jumps up one step more. Next month, next step. Next month, next step, right? Then one day she skipped a step. So the next month she goes two steps. Or the next month she only goes one step, because her tefillah is to go one step. Great shailas. Unbelievable. I don't know yet. I'm just telling you that I was clarifying: do you mean that the haflagah is b'dilug, or do you mean that the kvius on such a haflagah will be nikva b'dilug? Which means, is the way she counts her vestes is always with one dilug. Nafka mina, everybody says, what's the nafka mina? I just told you a nafka mina. I'll tell you more nafka minas. So, so far, we have two diyukim. Do you argue with any one of the two diyukim?

I could have read it. I could have read what Rabbi said, even if the wording was different. Okay, so let me repeat what I said, and then we'll see why you do agree or don't agree with what I said, because he doesn't even understand what I said. The first thing I said was, shetiyah haflaga shekovas bemaves will be bediuk, which means it's a regular haflaga, but grada it is bediuk, which means it's the same thing as the previous vest haflaga, right? Has to do with vest haflaga. O dilma, maybe it's a new thing, something called vest haflaga bediuk, the type of vest, a different category of vest. Is it the same thing, grad it happens to be bediuk, or it's vest haflaga? Grada, the numbers are diuk. Is vest haflaga a different type of vest that you have to keep? Vest haflaga bediuk is vest haflaga with diuk numbers. That's just different numbers, that's all. The mashma'os is, pams shetiyah haflaga, that haflaga that we talk about will be, kovas bahem, grada it will be bediuk. I said one which is the end of the shiur, really. You want me to say one which will be in the beginning of the shiur? I'll tell you one in the beginning of the shiur. How many re'iyos do you need to be mechayev a vest haflaga? And the answer is four. How about here? What about this diuk? It's machlokes. It's a very big she'eilah. Okay, so right now you got your chiluk, right away. Right away you see there's something else going on. Maybe yeah, maybe not. Maybe numbers it works out that way. We'll soon see. It lomdus, it has to be that way, because you need the diuk. Of the haflogah, and here the haflogah is b'diluk, so you need an extra one to make the diluk. Even though you have a haflogah, right? Because it's a different story, right? It's a different... Maybe not. Or maybe there's something else going on here, and we have to talk about it. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. הבנתו שאתה לא מבין מה שאני צועק. הוא מסתכל, אה, משוגע. Okay. Now tell me, didn't I just make everything clear in five minutes? In five minutes I made something very clear. Was it so clear when I walked in here, this, this? Hello? Hello? Was it so clear that when I... this, this... Okay, this way, that way. Okay, so let's discuss this way and that way. I read you a simple story, haflogah we learned. Okay, so let's move now to the next seif. The next seif is what? Haflogah with different numbers. In other words, it's a question of kindergarten. Could you count one plus one plus one, or one, three, six, nine? That's all it is. It's just different numbers, right? Because it's diluk. O dilma, or maybe, no, no, no, no, no, no. It has nothing to do with the numbers in the haflogah. It's a different type of kvias vest. The halacha of being makpid on a yom vest, there's something called a vest l'dilug, which means that the chiyuv shmirah is b'haflogah, of dilug. Say it again. It's a k'mo... vest kavua, k'mo yom hachodesh, rak shezeh b'dilug, shelo yamim, v'zeh lo b'dilug, zeh b'haflogah shel yamim. Here, I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example. You know, l'havdil elef havdalot, okay? I'll give you three sandwiches. You have an egg sandwich, a tuna fish sandwich, and a herring sandwich. It's all the same thing. You know what the difference is? What's what you put between the breads, right? Same breads, the same. Mazello sandwich, zello sandwich, or z... sandwich. But the sandwich is, you have tuna, you have dagim, you have ... peanut butter, and zeh, right? So, same thing. יש הפלגה, יש הפלגה של חודש, באמצע תשים ימי החודש, באמצע תשים, 25 days, ההפלגה. ... Okay. אוי דילמא, maybe. No, no, no. It's not about what's in between, but it's about איזה bread אתה תשים בחוץ. פירוש, if you want a tuna fish sandwich, you have to have rye bread. If you want a, what you call it, a herring sandwich, you have to get a pita. And if you want a hoagie, see, a hoagie, okay?

If a person is, is kovea vast lahaflaga, so then the shmiras hayom is lahaflaga of something. Then that yom hachiv is b'dilug, which means the next month. Forget about the haflagah in between. Forget about what's in between. Right now, you got it, the shmiras hayom is b'dilug. And that's the case I gave. What happens if she missed a month? Does she go the next month to the haflagah? Haflagah always is, right, 23, 7, so 33, that's it. Oy, do we say, wait a minute, since the whole haflagah is to be, meaning the whole yom versus to be one more day on top of the other day, so she goes up one day, not two days. Depends on what you're looking, the days or— Do you look at what's between? Do you look at the day? Is it nikva l'dilug, or it's nikva al pan hahaflagah, which is b'dilug? Okay, write it down, write it down, write down the following words: Ha'im hahaflagah, which is between the sandwich, b'dilug. Tuna fish with a little more mayonnaise, and then with a little more mayonnaise, and with a little more, so it's b'dilug, it's more, mois, okay? Oy, it's a whole different sandwich now. Wait a minute, it's a sandwich acher. Shehayom she'atah shomer tzarich lihyot b'dilug. Bidilug mehayom, mehachodesh avra. It's a dilug. It's a din in the yom, shmiras taves. Or is it b'hazmanim shebein havest? We'll soon see the nafka mina. The lashon, he says, pa'amim shetihei haflaga shekoveaas bahem in the haflaga. It's about the haflaga. The haflaga happens to be bidilug. Otherwise, he should say like this: pa'amim shetihei haflaga meduleges. Some—he's telling you a story that sometimes her haflaga changes bidilug. No, he's not saying that. The haflaga that she is being kovea according to do will be nikva bidilug. It has to do with the yom vest. But the yom vest will be—the kvius will be one more day. Tosif yom. Tosif yom. Hachiyuv sheyeh yom zeh b'yom sheini, b'yom shlishi. If one day she missed—what would be nafka? If one day she missed, so all she has to do is add one day according to the previous month. Two days? No, one day. Because if haflaga is to be nikva for one more day, so she has to be nikva for one more day. And if last month it was 34, and this month it was 34, so now it's going to be 35. But if it's nikva for a certain haflaga, which means that the haflaga is going to add, so if it adds, so add the extra day for last month she didn't have it, so what, but then add another one for this day. What's so hard to understand? Because there's already ves kavu for something else. She has a haflagah kavua for something already. Kavua. For five months she's been increasing one day. She missed it, so the next month it comes out. Yeah, but again, if the pshat she has to add one day to the previous month, no she doesn't, because her real haflagah is supposed to be now two, because every month she's supposed to add one. No, she saw a fluke. No, what do you mean you do what you missed? What are you talking about? For five days she saw, in five months she saw. She missed. Now she missed. So go to the next month, really she's supposed to see, but she was sick. I don't know what happened. Because one doesn't take off five. A one-time fluke doesn't take off five months of jumping a day. But you can't continue. She's supposed to jump a week, a day, every month. What do you mean had she seen? She didn't see because she's sick. So that month she was supposed to see, and now she's going to jump two days maybe.

Put something else happened. Mashenkin, if the kfiyas veses is din in the yom, and when it happened. So the yom was to be erev day. I added a day to my calendar. It's a machlokes. I didn't make up—I made up this machlokes. It's real for my life. I made it up. Okay, it's not mashma there's such a machlokes. Okay, so look at the poskim, and you'll see that it's not mashma, but it's clear. It's clear over there. It says machlokes. You want to argue with the machlokes? What do you want from me? Okay, now, I mean, it's—what? That's what you said, but the poskim... Right, so with mitzvas Hashem, when you write a sefer, if you argue on the Gra, I don't mind. I care what you argue. You can do what you want. It's your country. Okay, I hold that out. Okay, let's go back. Now, the problem is the case. Today. What does she saw today? Today is what? Today, the day you're learning it, what does today mean? Any given day. She saw... What happens if it's not—it's not any given day? What happens if you know it's 29? Huh? So why do you have to say sherosa hayom? Maybe it matters. Maybe it matters. Maybe you have 29, it matters. Maybe it's only when—Aroyni, are you with me, Aroyni? What's going on here, no? Is your real name Aaron and in Persia they call you Aroyni? No, I'm joking. I don't know. I don't know. You think I don't know them? Wasn't there a guy, Tanacha Roni, what was his name? The, whatchacallit, huh? Right, Goyren Aroyni. No, it was Aroyni. Oh, we went through this once. I called him a ravna and you called him a royni, or I called him a royni and you called him a ravna. Arvoyna, Goyren Arvoyna. Okay, no problem. You ready? You're not that guy, so things, you don't have to worry about anything. No mistaken identity, no stealing. Okay, now, so listen carefully, listen carefully. So the shaila is, kegon sherosa hayom. I don't know what hayom means. I think that it does make a difference. I think that if, let's say she saw 29, 30, 31, 32, meaning that she was a new 29er. It's a new thing now. 29 is a new thing. Till now she saw 16, 15, 20, 21, 20. All of a sudden she does have a number here, 29. And then she saw she'einah l'sof lamid. I think maybe it would make a number, and the mechaber would dafka picture rosa hayom, that it's a blank day. Can I say it? I'm allowed to. You medayek that? You medayek it? It's not lashon. What am I going to do? The guy who—everything I say says not mashma. You know the vort with Efshar for karet. I'll tell it to you afterwards, okay. Kitzur, sherosa hayom. I didn't know the acharonim. I didn't see any acharonim, but I know when I look at it, right away it scares me. I see hayom, hayom. Like, you know when you have a thing, you know, in Borough Park when they say a shiur is today, they put up a big sign, Hayom! and everybody's looking, what's hayom? and they see a shiur. It's only a shiur. Now, v'rosh hasheinis, l'sof lamed, u'shlishis lamed aleph, u'reviis lamed beis. So, kava ves l'dilug shel haflagos. So she was kava ves l'dilug shel haflagos, ves l'dilug shel haflagos. Now here it's mashma l'dilug shel haflagos, taka. The kvius ves is a dilug of haflagos, okay? Now, how many times did she see according to this? Hayom, lamed, aleph, lamed beis. So if you add one plus one plus one, it's usually not five. Usually it's here maybe it's five, but usually it's four. The problem is, in se'if zayin, that's the kashya that everybody speaks about, right? In se'if zayin, he talks about ves hachodesh. Ves hachodesh, he discusses that you would need either gimel re'iyos or daled re'iyos. What is this? This is the machlokes Rav and Shmuel in either daf samech daled...

Daled, do you need gimel revi'ios or daled revi'ios? Because you would need haflagah of, right, to be mashalesh beinei, that you would need three to sandwich in between the veses. Now, if you pasken that you actually need daled, right, so you would actually need to sandwich it between four haflagos, right? The Mechaber there paskens, v'nochon l'hachmir. Brings both de'os, and he says, v'nochon l'hachmir k'dei a shniyah, like you're supposed to pasken like the second shitah, that you should have four. So then over here, how many would you need for haflagah if you need to sandwich haflagos? You need five? Problem, the Mechaber says four. Oy vey, oy vey, oy vey. That's the kashya, okay? The Prishah says, ein hachi nami. He was somech on what he said later. Yeah, but he gave an example which is no good, right? So because of this, you look at the Taz, the Shach, the Gra, the Kresi U'Pleisi, the ... to what? Maybe ein hachi nami. There it's talking about a dilug of chodesh, and over here it's talking about a dilug of haflagos. I'm saying whatever, haflagos, dilug of haflagos. So dilug of haflagos. Forward would be enough. Where you have, huh? Right. Even for a ches, that's what he said. That's a crazy place, they all say, no? Oh, you didn't see it. So look at the Taz, seif katan vav. Look at the Shach, seif katan ches. Look at the Gra, seif katan vav. Look at the Kreisi, seif katan vav. Right, vav. It's a chumra, which means b'diavad you don't need it. And that bothers me. Let's start again. In other words, like this: either the pshat is, zoln worry. Don't worry, he was somech on what he said later, okay? Or the pshat is, eino chinami. It's really saying basically the same thing, that seif hei is written wrong. That's what it comes out, that seif hei is written wrong. Yesh omrim, and this, the Eshkol, many Rishonim say like this, chas v'shalom, seif hei is written wrong. What are you talking about? It's a seif hei, don't do it, that story. That story, Rav and Shmuel, is a case of what? Of chaydish. And by chaydish you have taka what? A shaylah of three and four. Mashenkein over here, in our case of vesta, chaflagah b'dilug, hakol modim, daled. That's why the Mechaber wrote that. First kashya is, mai shna? Taka pshat, ein shna. Well, what would taka be pshat? But before I do that, I'd like to say that hei is not written wrong, because when you start saying that the Mechaber's written wrong, then I'm out of business. I mean, there's no point to me learning. I might as well just close up shop and say everything's lav davka, and that's all, and finish, right? This is wrong. Nah. This is not. Sounds like the Christian Bible. By the Christian Bible, whenever you ask him a kasha—sorry—they were the first Briskers. No, no, no, no, no. Whenever you ask him, but it says differently over here, the next pasuk is like this pasuk. No, no. Okay, I can't, I can't. So what's the pshat in hei, you hear? Rafi, let me tell you what the pshat in hei is. Maybe one is talking about the kvius hayom. One is talking about how many haflagos. Od pam. שאלתי אותך, כשמדברים על הדילוג, מדברים על דילוג ההפלגות, או כשמדברים, הוא מדבר על הקביעות בדילוג. יום החודש זה יום. In order to be kovea a yom, so the haflagos to make the yom, so it's not a haflaga. The haflaga is just to get—

to the yom. So if you want a sandwich haflagah to get three yom, how many yom do you actually need? I want to know like this: if the haflagah is to make the yom, if the re'iyos are to make the yom. So it goes like this: are the yamim the sandwich, the breads, and the vestes, the re'iyos are the chomer, the toichen? What do we call that, what's the inside of the sandwich, the toichen? What's the other way around? The breads are the haflagos and the yamim are the—what? The ikar and the tafel. What's making what? If you hold that the haflagos are the sandwiches for the yamim, the breads for the yamim, so how many you need? So how many haflagos do you have to make? Three days, huh? One before, one to make that yom, one re'iyah to make the next yom, and one re'iyah to make the next yom, right? Let's, let's—here, take the papers, take the papers. Give me a pen. I don't want that. I like to write the way I like to write. You want to use my way of thinking, then let's use my way of thinking. Okay. You have over here a yom, yeah? Then you have an haflagah. You have a yom, and then a haflagah. A yom, right? And then a yom, right? Now, let me ask you a question. These re'iyos, these re'iyos, right, is to establish the yamim. Hari'iyah hazu, deri'ot ben, is levases hayamim, peirush. So it comes out that in order to have an established day, automatically you need one cycle, okay? This will make you a second cycle, and in order to have a third cycle, you'll still need another re'iyah. Because it comes out to be, you saw one, two, three, four, six times, okay? Right? So you would need one, two, three, four, right? How about this day? What is this day? It's nothing, right? So how many days actually do you need? Another re'iyah. How many re'iyos is that? That's if you're looking at the yamim. But if you're looking to be kovea the haflagah, so automatically this day counts. It has to count because you have the haflagah. That's right. So all you need is one haflagah. One, two, three, four, five. That's right. Again, if you're looking at the yamim, the haflagah makes the yamim, so you automatically always need two. You should know the example. Two to begin. The opposite. You're always saying the opposite thing. No, I'm not. Don't tell me what I'm saying the opposite. You're bothering me the opposite. I'm saying the right way. In order to make a sandwich, you need two pieces of bread. That's what I'm saying. So someone asks you, Eich harab bi'eret asugya hi, tzrichim shtei chatichot lechem kedei la'asot zeh. So, in order to make three sandwiches, how many pieces of bread do you need? That's all. That's what I'm saying. In order to make three sandwiches, you need six slices of bread. That's what you need. That's what it says. If you're looking for the yamim, yamim need haflagos around the yamim. Hashenken, if you're looking to make haflagos, if you're looking to make haflagos, then you don't need both ends. All you need is one anaflaga, another one anaflaga, and then you have three haflagos. That's finished. The first one always counts if you're looking for the haflagos. If you're looking for haflagot, if you're looking for yamim, yemei hachodesh, yemei hachodesh, yemei hachodesh, I'm telling you, ... emes ...

Notice he uses the lashon, kigai sherasa hayoy. What's hayoy? What day was it? What number was it? Ah, yeah, I want to leave it blank. He wants to leave it blank on purpose. He wants to leave it blank on purpose, because then if he knew the number, then you wouldn't even need four; three would be good enough. It has to be blankness. But you know the number when it happens. It doesn't make a difference. That's what he's trying to say. I don't want to talk about it. It doesn't make a difference as long as I have an haflagah, that's it. At first re'iyah, there doesn't need to be haflagah. That's right. It just means you have one; I'm not going to see whatever it is, thirty... Exactly. That's haflagah number one. One, and then there's haflagah number two, and then number three, so it ends with the fourth re'iyah. The problem is you need four haflagos. You don't lean, I'm trying to tell you. And if you're going after haflagos, why don't you need four haflagos? Because you really don't need four; you really need three. No, regular haflagah is fine, right? If it's regular, that's haflagah, you're right. You need four re'iyos because... you need three haflagos, fifteen, fifteen, fifteen. That's right, but you need dilug; you don't see three jumps, you see two jumps. Your first haflagah was thirty, the next one was thirty-one, okay, so that's one jump. Thirty-two, that's two jumps, so that's it, you only have two jumps. Because each one jumps. But you don't know what's going to happen the next time. I know, but what about the first time? The jump is good enough. First time was a jump, first time was a jump, that's good enough. That's what the haflagah is. Jump from what? You need to see the dilug three times. As long as you see haflagah three times. That's why I use the lashon, pa'amim sheti haflagah shekodemah b'maves, it'll be b'dilug. Again, we're not... just because you can't see this is going to be a first, the dilug is actually... That itself is a dilug. Why is that a dilug? I don't see why that's a dilug. She saw yud, and then she saw thirty, and then thirty-two, that's it, so you see three times that she jumped. She jumped. The first time she saw, that's called a jump. Day one counts. That's how we explained it also. No, we didn't explain it. How do you explain that? How do you explain that? Can I ask you a question? A person's hired for a job. They're gonna say, We're gonna give you three raises. Oh, here's your first salary. We just give you a raise. You know what they say? ... Why is it not here? Why is he not here? I mean, just said the Shach should have said it over here. I don't know. Ha? Chemash b'Toisfos, shlishi, taz. Ah, he brings, v'lfi zeh... You're right. Here. Oh, one second. Oh, he brings the last line. Okay, skip the last line. So we have over here three-way machlokes, yeah? Either it's the same thing like over there, the shach, that the same way over there it's two days, over here too v'yesh machmir. Or the pshat is that over here, right, im nechleku Rabah vShmuel, they argue over there, but over here they would be modeh that it's... But let's do it the other way around. Over there they argue, but over here you definitely need five according to everybody. No such thing. You said four. No such thing. You mean the Chazanish is crazy. Oh, it could be, could be. Chazanish. Okay. Daniel said...

Okay, so Chazon Ish learns like that, and it's a parnas remainim, it's others, it's tolmud. Maybe Ravish... about the Rashash, Rashash, amnida, that Gemara. Rashash learns like that. And Ravish rules only by vest hachodesh, but in the case of vest hamluga, you need five mi'es l'chal hadayes, even according to Rav. Why? The mechanics of what I just told you is the key to this. Ani ... למה? אני אוהב את החומר. ... הם מלאים ... They don't see what I'm saying. How do you say it in Yemenite? Juchnanim? How do you say it? Yeah, how do you say it? ... Jachnanim. What do you say? Jachnan. They like the jachna. Jachnunim. There's no word like that. That's right. There's such edel people, they wouldn't... Even their lashon nekiyah is lashon zeh. Okay, listen carefully, you hear? You know what it is? I was listening on the BBC. Here, close this for a minute. So what am I trying to say? Don't tell me about Arabs, I'm not interested. No, I understand that, but I'm saying... Okay, now, do you hear now what I want? You saw that this sugya is right here, meaning, do we say that this is the same thing like vest hachodesh? B'haflogah? Or do we say, no. Yeah? No. Rav and Shmuel is over there. Over here it would be different. Meaning, either hakel modim daled is good enough, or hakel modim that you need hei. But, po katuv daled riyos. That's the case. But wait a minute. Chabi, you said in seif zayin that you need what? Either maybe five, because Rav and Shmuel. V'yesh lachmir k'shita zu. So either we say, oto davar k'mo po, or we say, look, shama kein tzrichim, or v'po daled, or she'afilu sheyesh... sham is machlokes, kulam maskimim. Hey. No, there's two l'kula'almas. Either you say l'kula alma daled, even according to Rav and Shmuel over there, or l'kula alma hei, even according to Rav and Shmuel. And the Rashash learns like this. Come, come, let's sit down, sit down. It's getting late now. There's a machlokes. Okay, so I'm just telling you that if you want to know the hesber of the machlokes, it's telling you this she'eilah. This she'eilah: is it the haflogah is to make the yayin? Is the yayin to make the haflogah? Is the haflogah a kvius in yayin, or it's a din in dilug haflogah in zman? Now, there's a machlokes, the Rashba and the Ra'ah, which you all know. Rashba, it doesn't make a difference how many days she jumps, right? It doesn't make a difference. According to the Ra'ah, it's only one day. If you want to make a dilug, it's got to be a one-day jump. Now what's the case of the mechaber? Sheinis l'sof lamed, u'shlishis lamed aleph, v'reviis lamed beis. Why one day? Why talk about one day? It could be the pshat is that's the most common. Lav davka. O dilma, ken davka, ken davka, davka yom echad, only one day. But if she would jump, huh? ... Huh? Kegon sherasa hayom, v'rasa sheinis sof lamed, u'shlishis lamed aleph, v'reviis lamed beis. The case, v'kasav ves l'dilug shel haflagas. Then he said, I understand. So why does he bring that case? So either he brings that case because there's a yesh omrim not that way, which means that's the case, and then he has to argue bein shechika diluga, if it's bein bein, don't give that case. Why would you give such a case? Either the pshat is because there is such a case that someone said it's dafka, or the pshat is because that's the normal case. That's all I said. Maybe I didn't explain myself clearly. All I'm saying is why would he give an example of yom yom, and it's one of two terutzim: either because that's the normal case, or the pshat is because all he wants to do is to bring the shita that sof v'echad and say bein shechika, I argue. What's the hesber of the machlokes? If it's medaleg, it's medaleg. If it jumps, it jumps.

Jumpsy, jumpsy, jumps. Terretzes gorgishmak. Investis, kvias vest. So avada, there's no nafka mina between one day and two days, right? What's the difference? No kiyum that day. But if you're trying to be mechaber, the haflogah is to show, meaning one haflogah gives me what the other haflogah is, right? So once it jumps more than one day, so then the pshat is there's no seder in one vest to another. Which means is like this, I hold, let me just say it one more time. Listen how my mind works. Listen carefully. When one vest is the same vest month after month, so there's a svara that it's not going to jump more than one day, because then the pshat is it's a new vest. Vestes is not for the yom that Grada she sees on that day. Vestes is to tell me what her haflogah is. So in order for the haflogah, it has to be haflogah which means it's one day off. If it's two days off, so the pshat is, you're right, she Grada sees her day two days. You see? You see a setup, a pattern in that. But it can't be that that's her old vest. It's a new vest. But we don't really care, because as long as she sees, that's aser. That's if you want to be kovea the yom, not kovea the haflogah. So what? Okay, put the ... on before I get nervous. Right, so listen to me carefully. You know what that tells me? We know what day she sees. But if you want to know what period she has, periods don't jump in two days. Why not? Who made up that rule? I'll tell you that. There's a svara the opposite way. What happens if she goes backwards? Yeah? The ones who made up that rule made up this rule. Could she go backwards? Yeah, she can go backwards. Why not? When you see that she's going backwards. The ... is backwards. What do you mean, who said? Yeah, you see she is. There's no such thing you go backwards. No, the ... is — you want to know how ... you'll see that something's wrong. You want to know what day comes three times, one day, one day earlier, one day earlier, one day earlier. So every month it goes down. You know how I know this rule? I'll tell you how I know this, and you'll be maskim to me. The crazy place, he says it can't go backwards, because then she'll come out, she'll see every day. See every day? What, is she dying? It's gonna have to stop at some point. What's he talking about, right? What's he saying? What, he was crazy? You hold the crazy place, he said retarded things. Yeah, that every day she's gonna see, it should be a nida every day. That's what he's afraid of? And maybe ...? Maybe ...? A woman who sees every day is taka crazy. I want to tell you a chiddush: a woman who sees every day is taka nida. I need to ... crazy place. ... crazy place. Taka, it's crazy place. What are you saying? What are you saying? Ifshar sheyeheh chazarah because I can't eat kol yom. Hi cholah, it's a kol yom, it's a kol yom, okay? What are you talking about? And not only that, you look at the Chashulchan. The Chashulchan comes and says, it goes back 18 days. You go till 18 and then stop. Where do you stop? 18. And then maybe 19, maybe 14. That's a vest. He's trying to say is that her normal vest, we're not worried about when it's coming. And that's what the Kreisi U'Pleisi is saying. If you're start talking about not normal vests, but days that'll come, so let's be choshesh for every day. Who told somebody? There was a doctor, and he went to the gynecologist, and he said, Gynecologist, tell me what's the teva. Each teva is one day off and one day less. That's what you're waiting to hear? That's it? That's right, that's right. But you want to know something? In hilchos kvius chashash, you would have to be choshesh for every day. As long as we're saying maybe it's a fluke, maybe she's not getting that well, but that's not kol vestes. Vestes is her vest. That's her period. Her period doesn't jump around. She belongs in a hospital. You want to know if it's al yoyim? Yes, al yoyim you have to be choshesh.

That's the pshat. You like it? Eighteen day. What are eighteen days? Yeah, you go backwards, but you only go backwards. Are you listening to me? You go backwards, eighteen day. But who said? That's your vest. Eighteen days. She decided eighteen days are normal vest. Beautiful pshat. The kreisi is talking about a different thing. The krei— hello! I'm sorry. The kreisi, the kreisi is saying is, if you're not looking at her vest, but you're looking at any day that could come, you know what? This woman, any day, you don't know what's going on already. Let's be choshesh every day. Let's stop worrying about it. That's what he's trying to say. Ein hachanami, if you're talking about a real vest, but no woman has a vest every day, that's what the kreisi is asking him. The kreisi is saying, according to you it comes out we should be choshesh, because we're not worried about her vestes, because vestes don't go backwards. The Rosh learning the vestes is what? The kvias yamim, to be choshesh. You know what haflagah is about? Haflagah is about what? A period. I hold haflagah is about a period, and vest hayom of chodesh is not about a period. It's yom halula lavon, that's what it is. Haflagah is a pattern in her vestes. Yom hachodesh is a day that you have to be choshesh in yom, and I told you that there's a chiluk between the two. I told you we wanted to do this. We started the siman with this. Remember I told you this chiluk? That haflagah is a different type of thing. Haflagah is a different type. What are you taking your jacket for? I'm ready to get angry, and you're taking your jacket? Just start it. Oh, you're cold, okay. You shouldn't be cold after a shiur like this. Now, with this, what happens? If it's not one day, one day. She's medaleg one day, the next month two days, the next month three days, the next month four days. What about that? Not that she's medaleg two, three, two, four, six, eight. Not yom l'yom, but the pattern is every day more, okay? So it's machlokes haposkim about that. That's the pshat, right? The pshat, right? A vest could be pushed off a day, and there could be a pattern to push it off a day, but there can't be a pattern to have different re'iyos. There's no such thing. Al tzchasha yom, yes, you have to worry about it, but there can't be a pattern that there's something wrong with this woman. There's no such thing. You can't be kavua to— you know what it is? It's illogical to be not kavua. There's no such thing. To be kavua to see weird vestes is not a mahalach. If you learn vestes is the day that you have to worry about, you can be kavua to worry about weird days. But if you learn that the vestes is her period, and her periods don't work two and then jump at three, and what is she, a science project? What is she? I don't see it. She has a clock, huh? That's what I'm trying to tell you, because then the pshat is it's weaker and stronger. It goes, she gets off and then she gets stronger. But to jump one and then to have a number, a number of two, three, what is she, a Rubik's Cube? One day, if pshat is one, and then she's weaker, so go two, it gets pushed off, and then three, because it gets pushed off. But to go one, and then to skip, then to be two days later, and then to be three days— no, but then to have a kvius of that. It could get pushed off day, and then two days, and then a third day. But to jump with numbers and have a mahalach in the numbers, that means that she doesn't have a veses. There's something wrong with it. That's not called kvius veses. So this is the machlokes. The machlokes is, is she nikva, and that's the shaylah. What happens if she skipped? Let's say she skipped, so what does she have to worry about? If the pshat she's nikva to jump one more day, meaning that her yom chash is chash of one more day, so then she just adds a day, that's all. But if the pshat has to do with a cycle, so last month she missed her cycle, so what? Doesn't mean this month she's not going to have the cycle. The cycle is to get pushed off one. That's the machlokes. Yeah? You're going to work on it? Okay. Thursday, vav. That's what I'm trying to explain to you, because it has to fit into a system. No, it has to fit into a period. This is not a period. Nothing. This is just a chashash that she has flukes. Chashash of flukes is not called a period. It's not kavua. That's what we're trying to say. She's not nikva. Plus, that's what it says, כי שאר everything else.

She doesn't have anything else.