Hilchos Vestos: Veses HaShavua and Veses HaChodesh Versus Veses Haflagah

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Shein. Shekoyvas vest baflogem yomim shovim she'einam shovim. Kach koyvas bimei hachodesh, mimei hashavua shovim she'einam shovim. So my question is, what is the kishein for? Whenever you have a mashal, it's usually the mashal and the nimshal have a shaychus, right? Otherwise, just write that there's a din vest from chodesh and shavua. What's the kishein? So is the kishein to compare hafloga to chodesh and shavua, or it's for the second part, shovim she'einam shovim? What's the kishein for? Is the kishein to come and say, kishein, there's a din haflogeh. There's also shavua and chodesh. Or is the kishein to tell me just like them by hafloga, shavim v'she'einam shavim, kemo kein פה זה shavim v'she'einam shavim. Or dilma, bichlal ze lo, stam mashal b'alma, stam. Kishein ad po lamadnu. Till here we learned about haflogeh, so kishein is haflogeh. It's also a little strange to learn like that. The kishein is mashma שהוא מדגיש משהו מסוים, kishein. No, kishein שמצינו את זה פה, לכן זה גם פה. Okay. Now, I would say, I would say, kikoilech orev. Tell him, kikoilech orev. U'mareich noveh. And after the shiur, one hashmini is kolel Haran, Arinius, Maraich. After the shiur, Rav Ben Chayim. Now. Okay. So you hear my shaila? I ask good. It's a nice sevara. Pashut, when you read it, you could read it k'sheim sheyesh haflagah, v'lamadnu al haflagah ad po, you should know that there's two more. There's chodesh and shavua. Or it's k'sheim kemo hadin haflagah, yesh gam din shavua v'chodesh. Or it's the telui shavim she'einam shavim. Just like there's no chiluk between shavim she'einam shavim by haflagah, hu hadin, k'sheim, oto davar, eizeh meihem hatadimah eilu is the right one. Okay. I want to say that maybe we could clear this for a shaila. What do I mean? I'm claring is chodesh and shavua, which we spoke about, גר"א, in the past, a vest different than haflagah, or it's also a type of haflagah. Just like certain women have haflagos, certain zman, there's haflagah certain yamim, right? She sees every chodesh, so that's a haflagah, the haflagah of that day. So it's a haflagah, different type of haflagah. In other words, k'sheim that there's a haflagah in zman, there's a haflagah in yom, there's a haflagah in shavua. Peirush, kemo shenasbir b'hemshech, that maybe vest of chodesh and yamim and shavua will be compared to haflagah, and the hadinim of haflagah will apply also. By vest and chodesh, o dilma? No. Actually, it has nothing to do with each other. Haflagah is one type of vest, and chodesh and shavua is a different type of vest. And the only kisheim is to tell me, kisheim shezeh kavua l'shavim v'she'eino shavim, hu hadin פה l'shavim v'she'eino shavim. But it's not b'yesod the same. Different type of vestes. Okay. L'havin מה שדיברנו, עכשיו בוא נדבר: what is a vest hashavua? What is it? And maybe we'll understand maybe a little bit vest hachodesh, but בעיקר what's vest hashavua? So there's a machlokes בכלל what vest hashavua is. What is vest hashavua? Sheachsiv, כד. learns that every three weeks she sees b'Yom Aleph. Every three weeks she sees b'Yom Aleph. Every three weeks, because a woman usually has a three-week period of clean, right? So she stops three weeks, and then again, Yom Aleph. Three weeks, again Yom Aleph. That is called a vest hashavua. The Prisha learns that she saw three weeks in a row, Aleph, Yom Aleph, Yom Aleph. She sees three weeks in a row, Yom Aleph.

Sunday, and then again Sunday, and then again Sunday. Every Sunday. Okay. Now, you're looking at me as if you didn't learn this. You don't know that there's such a peshat? You don't know this? I mean, this is aleph-beis. I mean, this is the machlokes, famous machlokes. I mean, they didn't learn this? You didn't do this? You didn't know? Scary. Okay. Now, let's start again. I just want to make sure you understood till now what we said. Did everybody understand what I said till now? Did you read the Shulchan Aruch k'shem that it's just a mashal, like the same way shelamadnu ad po al haflagos, achshav nilmad al mashu acher? That's lo matim. Why would you have to write that? K'shem this, because... Or, you could even say k'shem, that's the same way there's a din haflagah, there's a different type of haflagah, and that different type of haflagah is haflagah shel ocho, or shavua. Or it's only to tell me the last thing, k'shem that there's no chiluk between shavim and eino shavim by haflagah, there's no chiluk. Okay. The pshat learns what is a vest ha-shavua, that it's every third week, b'Yom Aleph. And the reason why I go into this right away, because once we understand well what vest ha-shavua is, maybe it is haflagah, maybe it's not haflagah. We'll have to see what it is. The prisha learns it's every week. Nope. It's gonna do what? The kasha, you already asked this to me. As it comes out, she's always, she's always to me. If she sees every Sunday, she's just bleeding to death, right? I mean, what happened to her? Right? Peirush, she sees, and then she's zayin nekiyim, and she sees, and then zayin nekiyim, and she sees, and then zayin nekiyim, so she's basically a tomei all the time. She's always the tameiah, this girl. I mean, huh? Okay. So the truth is, I mean, I don't hear the kasha that much, because maybe the fourth time she didn't see. Three Sundays she saw. She's had ketemah for three weeks in a row. The fourth Sunday she didn't see, and the shaylah is, is there a vest for that? The shaylah is, so does she have to be choshesh for the next Sunday? That's all. But that would be the— I don't hear the big kasha. Everybody has a kasha. Well, she's tameiah all the time. She comes all the time. But it just happened three times, and then the fourth time it didn't happen. What's the shaylah? I don't know what the shaylah is. The fourth time it didn't happen. L'choirah, we have to say that to answer this, it'll be talui if vest hashavua is a vest haflagah or a new vest. When a haflagah doesn't come one time, right, do you have to be choshesh? Do you have to be choshesh for the next time from that day? L'mashal, she saw Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, and then she missed a Sunday. If it had a dinim of haflagah, so does she have to be choshesh for the next Sunday? No, because it has to be counted out haflagah, which means there's a week from the last time she saw. There's no week. It's finished. It's over. But if you learn it's vest hayom, so then you'll have to be choshesh for the vest hayom. The teretz will be תלוי on this shaylah. So I just showed you a beautiful piece of Torah, which I hold you should thank me for. It's beautiful. I didn't see a beautiful vort. It's not a beautiful vort. Where are you going to hear this? This you're not going to hear anywhere. Shabbos is baalti lecha, female beautiful. The difference if it's haflagah or not haflagah. You know, if a person, let's say, has haflagah of 22 days, and then again 22 days, and then again 22 days, right? And then the third time she missed the 22 days. So what's supposed to happen after that? It's finished, because there's no haflagah of 22 days. Anyway it's finished. On every veses haflagah, the minute you don't have the haflagah, it's over. Remember we spoke about this, the kudah. Let's say you have to add a day, and the day doesn't come. You don't have 22 days if it's 22 days from the last time she saw, but this time she didn't see. It's not nekar; it has got to the next time. If there's 22 days from next time, there's no 22 days from next time. Beautiful.

She's gonna see, she comes back to the second point. So I'm giving you a teretz that your question is she sees, she's a nida, right? So what's the teretz? The teretz is, yeah, but the fourth time she didn't see. Yeah, but the fourth time she didn't see, she won't have to be choshesh anymore, if it's a haflagah, depending on how you learn. It's a very big nafka mina. No, it was that fourth time the yom she might have to be choshesh for, but then the fifth time she's finished. What would happen? It's a very big nafka mina if you learn that veses hashavua is haflagah or veses hashavua is yom. Kashes. You didn't understand? If she comes again, everything comes back. Again, but there's no time. Let's say the haflagah is 22 days. 22 days for what? But if she didn't see, so there's no 22 days. It's finished. Forget it, if it comes back, but if it doesn't come back, there's nothing to talk about. It's not neged the 22 days, but it's a shailah on the fifth time. If you learn the fifth, if you learn veses hashavua is a yom, so then the next time you'll have to be choshesh for it. But if you learn veses hashavua is haflagah, then you won't have to the next time, till we'll see what happens after that. That's the din of haflagah. Let's say she becomes a what-you-call-it, she loses, she didn't see a period, she becomes muberes without today's modern, right? So there's no haflagah, it's finished. There's this haflagah from a time she saw it, but she didn't see. Continue. That's what I'm trying to tell you. תלוי איך מסבירים. You see, the whole din of vesta shavua is based on a three-time, and then the fourth time you don't see. So I'm telling you there's a very big nafka mina. What if it's the fifth time? If it's a vesta shavua, you'll have to keep it as if it's a yom, but if it's vesta shavua is al taflaga, you won't have to keep it. What's the kasha? If you're anyway having an haflaga, so what do you need, bichlal, vesta shavua? I mean, if there's such a thing as haflaga, so then why bichlal talk about vesta shavua? Make it a seven-day vest haflaga. Why do you have to come on to the yom? So first of all, this is one nafka mina. It's after you prove that there is such a thing. If there is such a thing, right. That's what I'm trying to say. In other words, after we've established such a thing, it'll make a nafka mina. But I'll show you a little more. You ready? The Toras HaShlamim gives a pashut nafka mina. He says like this: If it's haflaga, how many re'iyos do you need? Four. Right, with the shach and the whole business. If it's a vesta yom, so all you need is, the Toras HaShlamim, se'if katan tes, three. So there's a very big nafka mina, right? So therefore, even on top of haflaga, od chidshu vesta shavua, and therefore you would have to wait for three. Femah da? Of course. למדנו את זה אתמול. אז לכן חידשו. You with me, Moshe? Therefore they were mechadesh the din of vesta shavua three times. What's the nafka mina? I told you this yesod. Remember I explained to you that if it's al tziyon in the haflaga, so you don't need to sandwich it. Remember I told you this? I told you this yesod. I was so excited when I read over the Torahs of ... it's what he says. Remember I told you this yesod, that there's two ways. You can either learn that if the ikker is the yayin, then you don't have to sandwich it between two. And if the ikker is the sandwich, the middle, then you need two to sandwich it. That part you were maskim to me. We always said even if the ikker is the yayin, you need hocha that this yayin is actually shayach. So here, versus ... you have a hocha. It's Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. He's saying because the Sunday is not the ikker. Because the Sunday should be is mechayach. Right, but here, if it's based on the haflaga, so the haflaga— No, that's the chiluk between me and you, you're saying. I'm farteitching that if it goes to the yayin with the haflaga, so yitaken. You're saying once it's worked with haflaga, you'll always need the sandwich. Even if haflaga is not the ikker, at least it's a— So at least you understood what I was talking. In other words, in the chazarah when you were fighting about some stuff, at least you got what I was talking about. I wanted to tie in this yesod, that whenever it's yayin, it's not nigeya. Whenever it's haflaga, there's zman in between, then you need sandwich. You need—that's a sandwich. Layom lo tzrichim sandwich. So mimeila it comes out, this nafka mina. If you learn—

Marevesta shavua is midin yom, so therefore you don't eat sandwich. But if you learn it's midin hafloga, so you eat sandwich. What happens if she saw the next time earlier? See, one case is, like I just told you, in case she misses, right? This Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, and then next Sunday, nitrapa, finished. Whatever happened happened, I don't know what, or nitcholeh, whatever, whichever way you like it. Nitchalah, nitchalah, you like it. Okay, Ashkenazim, no. Ashkenazi only beseder gamur. Tishmat, rov Ashkenazim, they don't know if this is בכלל עברית. They חושבים שזה צרפתי או משהו. You like the way the mind works. My mind works very fast, too fast. It's a problem. I have to slow it down a little bit sometimes. Things go very fast, and when I say a shiur I have to להתרכז, otherwise it starts to fly around a little bit. Okay, you hear? So nitrapa, or nitcholeh, whatever it is, I don't know what it is, but it's finished, okay? But that's if she misses. What about if it's what? Before she saw Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, and then she saw before next Sunday, she saw again on Thursday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Thursday. Oh, oh. If it's thenafloge, so you don't have to. You don't have to, because the hafloge has to work with thenafloge, right? Finished. You see? The fourth time was earlier. The fourth time is earlier. I told you what happens if the fourth time is missed. That was my example. What happens if the fourth time is earlier? This is a sidrei taharah. Sidrei taharah, ... says, since vest ha-shavua is about a yom, so you don't have to keep it. This is this lomdus. If it's also yom, you— I said you do. I said what? I said you don't. I said you do. I said, I said you do. I said you don't have to keep it. I'm sorry, I heard you do. I heard myself say you do, but I'm going to get— I want to hear what I said, right? Okay, you hear? Masha'en kein, if you learn vest ha-shavua as a type of hafloge, then it's finished. It's over. Sidrei taharah. I have a different question. She saw Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, vest ha-shavua. Says the Sidrei Taharah, right? I'm sorry, the Toras HaShlamim says, the Toras HaShlamim, that it's nikva b'shalosh pe'amim because you don't have the sandwich. What happens if she saw the fourth time and now you have the sandwich? Now what? Does it become haflagah, or does it become a vest hayom? What happens? This is good for kindergarten. Kindergarten, one kid plays with the other kid's back. ...you don't sit there playing with people's backs. It's not... Come on, come on. Wake up to yours, I'll hit you. You want me to hit you? I'll hit you. You wake up. When I hit you, you wake up. Yeah? You hear my point? That's my point. What happened? You went through this? You know this? Yeah, so what's the answer? So this is a machlokes. The Kresi u'Pleisi, it says tzarich, he's not sure. Safek. Tzarich. Safek. In the Pardes Rimonim—this is all the cheder books printed, I saw this in the cheder books—the Pardes Rimonim, pesichah, the pesichah brings down that it's kavoshteim. Yeah, both. ...They give it to you as a dessert. All right, they do good. Listen, I don't know if I would know this.

I worked on this. It's good, good. And not this one. This one gave it to me. Okay, now, ... here, kovea both, the shevuah and the haflagah, the chashuv that I saw, that I saw inside. ... he quotes, ... tes-vav, mistaver shekovel levezu, meaning the vast of haflagah, d'hi yoser shchicha, and they quote the lashon of the Ramban, the teva ish is more to see by haflagah than to see a yom gair. This you saw? I saw the Chavos Daas say the same thing. Oh, so you have Daas. You saw, I saw the Aruch HaShulchan, okay? Aruch HaShulchan, he brings the Ramban. It just says it's more shchiach, so therefore it's Ramban. Ramban says it's more shchiach, so therefore we follow, okay? Haflagah is more shchiach, and therefore it turns into the haflagah. Until you can bring a raya. If you can bring a raya that it's shevuah, then it's shevuah. What's the machlokes? What? Good, good, good, good. What's the machlokes? Bameh cholkin raboseinu hachronim hapoiskim? What are they arguing about? B'glash atah mata ken, ani omer lo, v'atah mata lo, ani omer safek. So kach zeh oved. כן, בדרך כלל לא בפוסקים. ... בבתי כנסיות עובד ככה, עמך זה עובד ככה. So again, if it's haflagah, so what do you have to call it separate things? And what do you have to be kovea for both? If it's both, I mean, that's scary stuff. It's interesting. Yes, it's l'chumra for both. Means, so I'm telling you, so what's the safek? Yeah, I understand. That's the suffix. Is shavua called a haflagah? Is shavua separate than haflagah, or it's a suffix ... right? Okay, let's discuss this. Let's discuss this. Could you have a vest hashavua b'dilug? Let's say Sunday, the next week she sees Monday, and, or let's say, or the case of the three-weeker, whatever, however you learn. Could you imagine the calendar you have to keep? Go crazy. The calendar. You understand the calendar? Sunday. It's a vest haflagah b'dilug. No, it is vest haflagah, regular haflagah. Oh, so that's where I'm going to be toleh. So the kreisi places, he in Sif Katan daled, not does—it doesn't work. Kreisi places, he says you can't do this. There's one problem. The Sidrei Taharah himself in Sif Katan lamed aleph says the opposite. I guess he was chozer from it. Look it up. Look at the Sidrei Taharah. Look at the two Sidrei Taharahs. Come on, come on, come on, come on. Sif Katan daled. A lot of work. Why? I don't know. But we'll have to learn this. This is a machlokes. We have to see why. בוא נסביר את המחלוקת. But Sidrei Taharah, Sif Katan daled, that it doesn't work, and Sif Katan lamed aleph, he changes his mind. What's wrong? You're not with me? You're not with me? Beautiful stuff. Beautiful stuff. Beautiful shiur. Beautiful. It's very long. I know, but in lamed aleph he just says— Doesn't say that you could do. With haflagah it works. I mean, haflagah b'dilug. Haflagah b'dilug, but vest hashavua b'dilug— No, he doesn't say. No such thing. Don't say anything. Okay. So the Seder Tahirin, you'll look it up, okay? I see you, you fatumel there. Sif Katan Lamed Aleph. He comes and he says, Change my mind. Okay. What's the machlokes? Why yeh bedil, not bedil? Of course, we're going to explain. Obviously, if you learn it's a regular haflagah, it's a she'ein bedilu. But if you learn it's b'yom, so then it's something's wrong, no? Just like by haflagah, just like by haflagah, you can make a dilug. What? Nice piece, huh? Nice stuff. Good, good, good. What does it mean over here? U'vimei haShavua shavim v'she'einam shavim. What does that mean? It doesn't have to be. It could be Sunday, Tuesday, but it's, it's, it's, it's shavua. But you can't jump Sunday and then the next time Monday and the next time Tuesday. It has to be, you know, that one time Sunday to Tuesday and then Tuesday to Sunday, then... But there has to be a kvius, not a jumping of a day. It doesn't have to be...

Every seven days. It can be every fourteen days, but on a kavua day, every Tuesday on the fourteenth. Like I just said, like I just explained it. Okay, so read it. But not bediuk, not bediuk yai. They're smart, these guys. They know that they give me a good coffee, I'll come. That's what it is. Coffee is to comfort for. What are you, you put ...? He explained the way I explained it? Who says it? Who says it? Aha, so when the Pardes Rimonim says it, then it's good. Pardes Rimonim says that it's no good. Okay, go ahead, yeah. Right, right. No, but I'm just saying, he wants to know, the dilug is shavim she'einam shavim. He wants to know if it's not dilug, it must mean this. That's what. He's not masking with such a thing as dilug b'shavua. I shavim she'einam shavim. Shavim means constantly; she'einam shavim means with skips, meaning one week apart, two weeks apart. Rabbi needs to give me numbers. I'm not... Every single seven days, every seven days she sees, that's called shavim. I, she'einam shavim, every other week, every other Sunday, every two Sundays, every three Sundays, that's called she'einam shavim. That's exactly what I just said. I think other people say no, that's also shavim. If it's Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday, whatever, that's called... B'dilug. Yesh omrim, there's a machlokes. Yesh omrim ken, v'yesh omrim lo. Yesh omrim sheyach... aleph. And then the next time beis, and the next time gimmel. And that would be a... יש אומרים. יש אומרים and kazeh. Gimmel b'chodesh or gimmel b'yom? Gimmel b'yom. Shavua. And if it would be chodesh, then it would be chodesh. זה לא כזה. הווסת... okay, it's not... that's mevubar. זה לא קבוע. So what's the machlokes? Of course we're going to say this yesod. We're going to say that if you learn it's haflagot, then it's haflagot; haflagot work b'dilug. But if it's l'yom, then it's not. It's a stira. You can't have yom and then dilug. Yom and dilug doesn't fit. You can't have yom and then say dilug. It doesn't work. Why can't you say a chodesh also? It's fifteen. Tomorrow it's sixteen. Why sixteen? Ella mai, it's jumping. It's also jumping. Just like it could be fifteen, fifteen, fifteen, and sixteen, seventeen, which means yemei chodesh have it. Who told you you can make dilug b'chodesh? Gemara says, no. Gemara says you're allowed to be medaleg, dilug b'chodesh, but tzayin. And who told you that chodesh doesn't work al haflagah? Because haflagah is... doesn't add up. How do you know that it doesn't work by haflagah? Because you have molin chaser. Okay, so I'm going to show you that—I'm going to show you that this, that what I'm saying is right, that it's very shayach chodesh works al haflagah, and this doesn't. It's very good. He's mechaven to the shiur. Very good. Very good. Hu mechaven tov. Hu choshev shehu sho'el, lefoch hu mevi raya. Tzarich l'salem oto b'shvach. Lo harbeh. Don't get carried away. Okay. Now you know what I'm talking about? My raya. But you hear what I'm saying. I'm going to tell you soon that you have to see chodesh better. And that's why I was saying, once we understand shavua, then we'll understand chodesh also from shavua, because shavua and chodesh is different. Okay? Because by shavua, there could be that dilu doesn't work. By chodesh, it does work, and I'm going to explain to you how chodesh works. Okay? What happens, and that's where the next thing I was getting to, what Rafi said: don't look at the watch. There's no watch. Only up to page five, and I have ten pages, so you'll have to wait. There's nothing you can do. Now, here, look. There's no deal. It's not kavua. By vestes you can be medalek, but by learning you can't. Okay. A woman saw, shh, lamed l'chodesh, and the next chodesh is only chaf tes yom. What happens? So she's finished. There's no such thing. Her kvius evaporated. Now what? Nela. If you're going to say chodesh, what happened? You thought about this case? You saw this case. Okay. So which day does she keep? Some say she keeps chaf tes. Why? Because her kvius is for the last day of the month. It's not a number. It's a day, the last day of the month. Talui b'sof hachodesh. It says, there's a sof hachodesh. Yesh omrim.

That she has to keep the next day because it's lamed. You just said lamed. The next day happens to be Aleph of Chodesh, but it's lamed. That's the lamed. Aruchah Shulchan says, evaporated in fresh air. Lo tzarich lachush l'shum davar. That's lamed. See, that's why us Litaim, there's something unique about us. There is, you know what it is? Who said? And a Chassid, if that's how we work, that in case there's no yom, you're right, says a Chassid, she doesn't keep anything. Aruchah Shulchan says she doesn't keep any day. There's nothing to keep. There's no yom. You're right, she has to keep lamed, and if there is no lamed, so she doesn't keep lamed. What's the biur ha-machlokes? Very pashut. The first day holds that the chodesh is a vest haflagah. I'm a meilah, it's haflagah in chodesh. Meaning, we go after the month. The machlokes is that she sees at the end of the month. There's a zman, and the zman is not a day, but the end of the month. She sees at the end of the month. Happens to be the end of the month or the thirtieth day. Don't ask me lehafech. You see, you know why I don't want lehafech? Because they didn't get the first way. First let's get the right way, and then you'll come and fadreit lehafech. First let's get— If that's true, she saw on the 29th, next month is 30. That means she has to be choshesh for 30? I don't know. This is the end of the month? I don't know, maybe. Who said? I want to be mechadesh that maybe, according to this, maybe that's my shaila. You see, in the meantime I won't come next week, and you'll say this shiur instead of me. That's mamash where I'm heading. According to this, if you take this lamness in the day rishonah, so it should come out, taka, that the next month—let's say she saw on chof tes. So next month she should go for lamed. I want to be mechadesh. It's exactly what I want to be mechadesh. I'm mechadesh, I'm clarifying. According to this, harei tzarich latzet that in case she didn't see, she saw chof tes, so the next month let her see lamed, because if you take the lomdus of seif chodesh, take it all the way. Can't take it halfway. The second de'ah says it's a regel haflagah, and a regel haflagah is mizman l'zman, so it's a thirty-day zman. Chodesh is haflagah. So when the haflagah works out, fine, but if it doesn't work out, you got to wait the next day. Nachon. If you learn it's yom, so then the yom is not next month, aleph, right? But if you learn it's a din chodesh is actually haflagos, ... it's our problem. Kishmak, I'm trying to think of only if you learn, if you learn, klar, if you learn that it's a regel haflagah, ... But also one reader is fourteen on this month is going to be thirteen the next month. I don't know, who's that? Maybe. Maybe I want to be mechadesh that also. I don't know. That old Rishonim say, reisha achar reisha achar reisha, and fourteen, fourteen, fourteen, it's the same thing. Fourteen, fourteen, or fourteen? I'd say fourteen, fourteen. If you look at the Mali Choses, it really should be fourteen, thirteen, fifteen or something like that. Yeah, but the vort is only when the Mali Choses are a problem. You can't, you can't switch systems. Who said? Who said? You can't. Who said? Who said? Teva is ... Can we discuss teva? Can we discuss that? Let's get into that. But you see what you're doing is you're fatummeling them because you know a little bit maybe more of the Acharonim. Let's go slow. You hear where I'm heading? I'm heading in a very simple direction. The three days, what are the three days? The first day is that Chodesh is a vest of haflaga, meaning it's a Chodeshdike vest. There's such a thing, a new vest, Chodesh, Chodesh b'Chodsho. Chodesh b'Chodsho. I'm sure show you a Bach, the esh meidige shaila, what happens with these two days Rosh Chodesh, and her kvius vest is for Rosh Chodesh. No, what do you mean? But it's a day, Aleph, ... a month, Chodesh, Rosh Chodesh. Rosh Chodesh, it's the name, the name of the day. The name of the day could play a role, a Chodesh b'Chodsho. The second shita holds that it has to do with haflaga, so you—what is the day of shlishis, ...? Since the ikar is the yom, so that yom is just not here. It's just—let me tell you how this machlokes is the yesod of the chiluk between vest haflaga, vest ha-shavua, and vest ha-chodesh. It's mamash right here. Beautiful. If it's a yom, but there's no yom, so what are you gonna do? What do you want? But if you learn it's a vest of haflagas chodesh, it's anaya vest, haflagas chodesh, okay. Or maybe you learn it's a regular haflaga dike vest chodesh. Right? And now we understand shavua could be—

A little different. Why? Because shvuah, we have now a choice. We could come and say shvuah works, that it's bichlal not a haflaga. Shvuah works, that it's only a yayin. Or shvuah could work one of two ways: either it's a regular haflaga, or what is it? It's this new thing in the middle, a pes. It's a weak— a shvuah dika haflaga. We have more options now. Once we understand the machlokes by chodesh, so we have more options now in the vest hayayin. It's gevaldik. Again, either vest hayayin— I'm sorry, vest hashavua is haflaga, or vest hashavua is yayin, or vest hashavua is shavua. It's the weak. Notice that he puts together chodesh, shavua. Why does he put it together? We spoke about this, that he puts chodesh and shavua together. And what's the keshe now? The keshe is a mechadesh chiddush, keshen that there's in haflaga, in haflaga there's a din of shavim she'einam shavim, could be what's nogea to the vest hayom of chodesh and shavua, there's haflaga dika zachin there also. In other words, there is comparability to vest haflaga. There is some shaychus to vest haflaga that it's mechayev these dinim. Keshen, keshen sheb'haflaga ze kacha, zafilu sheze yom hashavua v'yom hachodesh. Let's see, there's a keshen. Okay, what's the hesber? Okay, so let's see weiter. The Bach wants to mechadesh that what happens if you have a vest l'rosh chodesh? Says the Bach, yeah, good, so there'll be a vest. So what happens if it's rosh chodesh and one month it's aleph and the next month actually it's lamed of the previous month? So you have to be choshesh for both days because her vest is rosh chodesh. Im yesh shnei yamim Rosh Chodesh. Right. Right, so Rosh Chodesh is two days. Okay. Nobody brings this, and that's how the writers write it. The Bach, chiddush, a vilde chiddush. Everybody screaming, yelling at the Bach, huh? He brings the Biur Machne. He brings the... I didn't say he brings the Shal, but it's a Bach. He's mearech which way we should smash, this way, that way. Orach HaShulchan says, Yesh lachosh l'dei zu. The Chashulchan says, Yesh lachosh l'dei zu. Why? It's a mechudik vort. He ignores the haflaga completely. V'lo charaya. If the name of the day is not there, the number... It's interesting. You know, I want to tell you a chiddush. Hayom yom. What's pshat, hayom yom aleph? Hayom aleph l'chodesh, right? You never even notice we say hayom yom aleph is Rishon b'Shabbos, hayom yom Rishon. Just say hayom Rishon b'Shabbos. We don't say that. You know how you say it? Hayom yom Rishon. Yom Rishon is the name of the day. It's not even just that it's the first day. It's Sunday. It has a name. Yeah. So the Orach HaShulchan's paskening, lamed is not just grad, it's the thirtieth day. Lamed is the shem yom. Rosh Chodesh becomes the shem yom. And mimeila, just like he was machmir, I hold, for the lamed, he's choshesh l'shitas haBach, because of the way he understood vestes. You analyze the Orach HaShulchan and his omek, and his bizbe bifnim. Analyze, bo ta'ayen, tamek. באור שולחן תבין, לכן הוא חושש לשיטת הסבך. Because he understood it's not lamed zman. Lamed is the name of the yom, hayom, yom lamed l'chodesh, which is interesting. Pashut, lamed is just a number. No, it's like yom rishon. Shavua is a shem. There's such a thing called a vest ha-shavua. Is the pshat in vest ha-shavua the shavua, or is the vest ha-shavua the yom aleph? Is the vest ha-shavua the week, or is the vest ha-shavua the yom aleph? You're not sure what I mean? I'll say it again. Vest ha-shavua could mean weekly. It's not the yom aleph, it's the yom, it's every seven days, or the pshat is every seven. Is the calendar written every seven days, haflagah or yom? And even in yom, it's pshat, is it based on haflagah or it's based on a shem yom? Or is the haflagah shel sheva yamim, va'afilu nagishes alah haflagah shel sheva yamim.

But you, but now that it happened, what did the Chachamim say? It's what? It's a haflagah of seven days. Every seven days she has her veses. Or every Sunday. Or it's every Sunday, lefi the shem of the day, Sunday. So the Shulchan is mechadesh, where there's no lamed, so now pshat we go after that haflagah. There's just no lamed. The day doesn't exist. Memeila, choshesh l'shitas haBach, that the Bach says if it's Rosh Chodesh, then you have to be choshesh both days. Okay. What's the nafka mina b'yesod? Where does all this come from? Okay, so first of all, what is a vest hashavua? What is vest hachodesh? The Razba says it's talui in Kiddush hachodesh. Talui in Kiddush hachodesh. The Ra'ah brings from the Ramban that it's not mistaver sheku after Kiddush hachodesh. What, beis din? But it's misyaches l'ma'alah halevanah. What does the Rashba answer? The Rashba says no. Whatever the beis din does, HaKadosh Baruch Hu maskim with them. HaKadosh Baruch Hu was maskim with them. So then they all bring the Yerushalmi that the teva lefidah. Okay. I'm gonna tell you a meirdike part. If you learn that it's talui in a yom, right? If you learn that it's talui in a yom, is there a shaylah, the ay here, the teva isha, the levanah, the Kiddush hachodesh? Of course it goes after Kiddush hachodesh, because there's zecher kovea the yamim. You know where I got this from? Because if I read the Rashba, I read the Rashba—rabosai, you read the Rashba, you start dancing. Tell me, chametz u'matzah, does that have anything to do with this conversation? Would chametz u'matzah have anything to do with this conversation? It does? Oh, really? Yeah, but that's not the goyrim. Bishleima if you learn that the shas, what's the geirem? Is it the maileh or is it the chaydesh? But by chametz u'matzah, it's not the geirim; it has to do with the yayin. The Rashba says, k'mo she'anu motziim, just like we find that we go after the beis din with chametz u'matzah, yeah? And in Yom Kippur with fasting. What does Yom Kippur fasting have to do with that? The teretz is that's the yayin. If you're learning that it's alst... and what's the machlokes, the original machlokes I told you—am I going too fast a little bit? You know what I'm talking about? It's a date. And who's kovea the date? What, you kovea the date? This woman's vest is kovea the date? The man's kovea the date. And that's why... what's chametz u'matzah? Chametz u'matzah is the chavlahu kovea day, mimeila is issura, issurei Torah. It's a day. The calendar is the calendar, and mimeila she follows the calendar. Does she have her own personal calendar following her own vestes? And that's the machlokes. Is vestes detach her periods, her calendar, her teva, and the calendar follows her teva? Or she follows the calendar? That's the machlokes. Ah, but you're right, but it doesn't do that. That's the halacha. The halacha is that there's a calendar, and there's a din prisha b'yom vestes, it follows the calendar. The Seder Taharah brings the whole shaila: how does a vest haflaga, right? Let's say it misses, right? Does it come back? Has to come back. You said it. He comes back when she sees two more times. He says you need two more times. Take a little bit tighter. Ma she'ein kein, he says by veses hashavua, even if she misses the next one, because it has to do yom. Veis, I have a nice time. Should I leave this here for you?