Hilchos Tekiyas Shofar: One Breath or Two Between Shevarim and Teruah

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So the question is, is it neshimachas, two neshimos, and what is neshimachas and what is shtei neshimos? So we said from the Mishnah Berurah, shtei neshimos is mashma literally two breaths. So I'm going to speak—Rabbi Yoel told me a gevaldige chiddush, I was maskim with him, a beautiful chiddush he told me. I'm going to speak about it. I'll show you how I brought it in with the breathing. I'll show you how I came to it. So the question is, what does it mean, shtei neshimos? So the Chazon Ish understands in the Mishnah Berurah means literally shtei neshimos. Good. Brisker Rav also held shtei neshimos. It has to be two neshimos. Good. The Chazon Ish himself says it just means shtei koiches, doesn't mean shtei neshimos, because he understood neshima achas means koach echad, and the word he uses is meri'ah mitech shever. The question is, what does meri'ah mitech shever mean? So the Velt learns meri'ah mitech shever means mamash from the shvarim to... It's not muchach. Rabosai, I don't have the Chazon Ish in front of me to explain it to you, and it's a long—because it's really lafukei shtei koiches. So the meri'ah mitech shever, let's just keep it simple, the meri'ah mitech shever doesn't have to mean literally meri'ah mitech shever. That's all he means is koach echad. Okay. Now, halacha lemaaseh, I have a gevaldige eitzah, and I don't know why people don't do this. The first thirty, you blow b'neshima achas, koach echad. The second thirty, you blow b'neshima achas b'shtei koiches. And the last thirty, you blow b'shtei neshimos mamash. The velt does it differently. The velt blows the meyushavs, they blow b'neshima achas, the me'umads b'shtei neshimos. But since there's tumul in the Acharonim, koach echad or shtei koiches, so l'kayem all the shitos, why don't we do that? So, kevaldig eitzah. Also, meydik, a meydik eitzah, yeah? I'm asking. Avada. First ones you blow b'neshimah achas b'koach echad. The next thirty blow b'neshimah achas, shtei kochos. And the third thirty, that's what I would do. That's what I... Oh, so this is the next question we're going to discuss, okay? What's called neshimah achas? I'm going to tell you over a chiddush from Rabbi Yehuda. We're going to discuss it. The first thirty, l'chora, should be b'neshimah achas b'koach echad. The second thirty should be b'neshimah achas b'shtei kochos. And the last ones should be b'neshimah achas b'shtei neshimos. I'm sorry, b'shtei neshimos. Ah, bless, hakadosh, you came for the best part. Okay. You know why it's the best part? Because you're here. Now, let me ask you a kasha. You ready? I help everybody. Why not? I don't know what that means. I don't know. If you want to do so, you know, you do it at the end, marim mateichah. I don't know what that means. I don't know if it's true. You see, I disagree with the whole assumption that that's what the Chazon Ish means. It's not muchach. Listen to me. I did the Chazon Ish. I know it in my sleep. I just don't remember every word, so I can't repeat it. I don't have a Chazon Ish here, but I'm telling you, it's not muchach. Okay, so, deis Hashem yisbarach. Huh? Nobody what? You know what I'm talking about, that Chazon Ish, marim mateichah? Oh, so you know that it's... You have to say the shiur statedly, right? It's not kloh what that Chazon Ish means, right? Who else did you hear this from, that the... Avdachtikl chazanish, miriam miteich shever. It's not muchach when eithering means a psanai chiddush, that there's such a thing called miriam miteich shever, and that's what the Veld likes to say, that Chazonish mechadesh psa, miriam miteich shever, and a lot of people do it. Do, do, do, do, do, do, you know, from the— you know, it sounds nice, because it's easy to blow that way, because you pick up— it's like an airplane. I don't know what they do in Eretz. I wasn't in an airplane. What an airplane is that you— and then you, like, take off, and it's very— it flows beautifully. So they taina that's the miriam miteich shever. If you read the Chazonish and you really realize what he wants, all he wants is the Chazonish is kuf lamed vav— oy, kuf lamed vav, what did I tell you here? Kuf lamed vav, sof seif katan aleph. Okay, now, what do you do? First thirty, you should do what? You should do neshima achas, koach echad. Next thirty, neshima achas, shtei kochos. And the last thirty, you should do what? Shtei neshimos, and if you want ten Chazonish, miriam miteich shever. Okay, good.

Now I have to tell you a big chiddush that people don't know. What? No, shemachas. The last ten, you do neshima, shemachas marim b'teich shev. Okay. Then you got all the shitas, okay? You are politically correct. Now, let's talk what shtei neshimos is. How much is— you know, when a person blows, he's blowing, and he goes... Sometimes you blow out, you blow in. Is that called one neshima? You're blowing, and you lose— what would you call that? Is that problem taking two neshimos in between? Oh, so let's look at Shulchan Aruch, סעיף ד'. דאין להפסיק יותר מנשימה. So either way, you're not allowed to be mafsik more than one neshima. You know what, Rabbi? Maybe you're not allowed to take in and out. What's a neshima? Is a neshima in and out, or neshima is only in? I know that. You don't think I know that? What do you think my safek comes from? You don't think I know my safek? Of course I know. Otherwise, you're not going to find the yeshiva guy asking such a shaila. You have to know medically that a breath is in and out. Everybody's thanking you to say shemachas. Two seconds. Yes. Doctor, you appreciate, you appreciate. All right, that's it. Knowledge. Knowledge helps. He shows you what knowledge helps, you see? Here, rabosai, מלמדת המשנה בנשימה אחת. What's called a neshima? One breath means in and out. In medical terms, a breath is in and out. No, you're supposed to do— It says you're supposed to do one breath and not more. For what? So between the shvarim and the teruah, even if you hold you're allowed to take a breath, it can't be more. In a tashrat, if you hold you're allowed to take a breath, it's shtei neshimos, you're allowed to stop one breath. What does that mean? It means no more than one breath, and that Shulchan Aruch says clearly, make sure it's not more. But what do you call a breath? Is a breath in and out? Pashut. Why? Who told you the pashut? Because you decided that, because you feel that way. Emotionally, you feel that it's so. Yeah. Because how do you... take in and out is tekiah. If it means in and out... How do you know? Maybe they just let you... maybe they give you a stop, and a stop means in and out. In and out, whatever, I'm just saying. You have to take in and out, and in again, and then blow. But who tells you... No, maybe the pshat is you're allowed to have the amount of a breath. A breath is in and out. What's a breath? It doesn't like it. It's more than breath. Now, Rabbi Yaakov tell me a gevaldige zach. The what? Rabbi Yaakov Fried? Who's Rabbi Yaakov Fried? I don't know who it is. I'm sorry, what? He's a posek. There's a posek, Rabbi Yaakov Fried, Rameima. The what? So say it over. Tell the oilam what it is. Explain them. Tell the oilam. Go ahead. Okay, so this is a chiddush I wanted to say. If you learn that it's halacha that you have to breathe, or it's a hefsekdik halacha, it's a stop, is it a literal, is it a ma'aseh in the neshama? You need to breathe? You gotta take a breath? Or the pshat is it's stop-wise? It's just the mashal of a person doesn't go straight from Ganuchi Ganach to Yehulu Yalim. So that's what I'm trying to explain to you. Is the taich, koichechot shteika, what does that come from? That's a zicher time shaila, l'choira. Or maybe not. Or there's another sugya maybe: do you need to stop? Stop means taking a breath. Or you taka what? Taka need to stop, meaning you need to stop with a breath. There's halacha you need a neshima. So if a person, let's say, needs a neshima, so let's say he breathes through the nose, you can't say that you took ma'aseh neshima. Why not? Why? Because that's not a neshima. You're breathing. You just... I'm saying, you know, let's say the opposite. Let's say it's ma'aseh neshima without zman hefsek. If you breathe through your nose and still breathe and still blow? Yeah, you blow, instead of breathing in and out. You hear the safek? What's the din of the neshima? Is the din of the neshima that you need the neshima, or is the din of the neshima is the hefsek de'halacha? You need it.

Is it the breathing? You need a breath? I don't know. How can everything be so poshut to you? Mamash a gadol b'Torah. Everything by you is poshut. I don't know. To me it's not poshut. That's his kasha. Why is it? Say zman ishimus. Okay. What's all this? I'll tell you a few interesting zachin. You know the Baal Tekea, the Baal Makri, when he calls out shofarim truah, some baalei makri say shofarim truah, and some say shvarim truah. Shailah in the poskim how to call out the shvarim truah, if it's one or it's two. Okay. What happens if a person blew the whole list, the tekiah, the shvarim, and the truah, all in one shot, in one neshima? What's the halacha then? Some people, you know why they do that. You're a good Baal Tekeah. What's the reason? They got a special angle and it's working. So you don't want to lose that, so you keep it. So you try not to take a breath, because then you lose it. So you threw out the makri? No, so what? No. Tekiah, you hold, you don't want to move. You don't want to change. So what's the halacha l'maaseh? Okay, we're gonna go. Don't worry, we're almost done. Another minute, we're done, huh? You have to run. Another half a second, mamash half a second. You know what? Because you did, you're gonna read. Sif katan chaf-beis, the Mishnah Berurah. See, I know how to do it. Mishnah Berurah, the Gra, the Mishnah Berurah b'shem the Gra. There's two days in Shulchan Aruch, and the Mishnah Berurah paskens the day rishonah that you're not yotzei. In Sif katan chaf-beis, Mishnah Berurah. So the Gra, shemaskim to the day rishonah, k'dei rishonah you're not yotzei, okay? So the day rishonah is not yotzei. It's funny, the Shulchan Aruch HaRav, there's two shittos, and the deirishain holds you're not yotzei. ... Right. And the Mishnah Berurah is saying, no, you're not yotzei. I'm sorry, okay, it's the other way around. Shulchan Aruch HaRav. And it's fascinating that the Chayei Adam, it's usually follows the Gaon. It's not like the Gaon over here. Interesting. I usually not so much. Okay, that's Torah l'Marsham, and with this we'll finish. Right, like the deisha, okay. Marsham says, yotzei d'Oraisa. What are you talking about? I'll tell you, baalei tekiah don't like to do this. They like to blow it all in one breath. I mean, I know myself, I like to blow in one breath because I don't want to lose the angle. Okay, you lose the angle. That's Torah l'Marsham, yotzei d'Oraisa, you have to be machmir. And yom sheini, which is derabbanan, you can be meikel. ... Yes. We're talking about just tashrat? Here we're talking about tashrat, this last. No, beginning of the thing, gimel shevarim tzerichin la'asos b'shiur echad. That's just the shevarim themselves, between one and one, the three shevarim. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you have to, just to breathe. Yeah. That's not the geshmak, really. Chassash is not geshmak. Yosef, Yosef washed or something. Yosef. He said over that in the original, the Chayei Odom ... what is that called? Nishmas ... He said, in hakdamah, the original hakdamah, he said that Chayei Odom, he wrote ... and he got stoned. Oh, really? Where is this? You saw this in the sefer? He wrote, I'm sure, from his mouth. It's great. He said he got stoned. Hundreds of people wrote to him, ... This halachah, he never quoted the Gra. He's not going to bring the Gra anywhere, and all the Ashmah is on you people because it's your fault. Very sharp. Could you show me where you found this? He said he saw the ksav. I heard it in the ... He said he found the original ... So repeat again, let me be clear, Rabbi. What do you ... you heard it on an MP3? Yes, I downloaded ... Okay, so can I hear this? I want to hear this.