Hilchos Niddah: Checking Kartin and the Presumption of Taharah

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It can smell. It could be anything. It could be a small thing. I have to teach you because this is a lot of experience. There's a jelly flesh thing. Forget to the seat. There's a jelly flesh thing, and then there is a hair, and then there is the third thing, which is— no, the third thing not kli, the third thing is yechbusha, like dots, you know, like looks like little bugs, you know. They're hard. They look like, you know, it's the back of a cockroach, you know, that— you know what I'm talking about? It's like a hard— right. Yeah, it's black dots. I mean, a lot of times it happens. Some women have that; that's all they show. Some women, that's their thing. That's what this Rama says, that if the woman is huchzak three times for karkum, which is not coming from dam, so she has a thing that she has— what do they call that? Her discharge. Have in it such a thing, the hard— her excretions have a thing that hard, and it has nothing to do with dam. Okay, now let's see further. Okay. So this is the machlokes, what? Why I do this? Okay, let me tell you what this is. This is a woman that— now, mincha is 1:30. Mincha is 1:30. Good, another five minutes. Mincha is 1:30. Okay. The Rama is mashma. The Ramaz mashma that if she checks three times, she's tahorah. What about shazves? Ramaz is not by shazves. No, no. Shazves, you have to worry about dam, says the Ramah, the continuation of that se'if. Says during the time she's supposed to see, checking three times, it's not going to make her tahor just because she... Right? Shazves, there's no good. No. Comes along the Shach, he says, Ramah, you know, I usually tip my hat to you. This time I have to disagree with you. And I hold that there's no chiluk between shazves and shelo shazves. The Chasam Sofer says that even though the Ramah says that there's a difference, we pasken like the Shach. The Beis Shlomo says, isha is a meinikah. Shabbos shehu Beis Shlomo, that a woman, which we'll have to talk about, cartin, common when a woman nurses. We're going to speak about this, maybe Thursday. Obviously we'll have to finish Thursday. What's the machlokes? What are they arguing? What are they arguing? I'm going to tell you the yesod, and then we'll just finish it up Thursday. I hold, and I found the Divrei Adam has a whole arichus in se'if katan vav. Beautiful. Is this woman with all these things assumed to be not clean and the bedikah is to clean her? The checking of the kartin to see if it cracks up is to clean her? Or she's assumed it's clean? When the machmir come and say she has to do it, it's a single kasha I spoke to you about. It explains everything I said in the shiur today. Maybe there's no safek really. She's not tamei, huh? Who says she's tamei? She's clean. Come on, he says shelichuit to check. How much do you have to check? Maybe even a little bit is good enough. ... Or she hi tahorah, im kol hastipulim ha'eilu. Yechmiru livdok, u'lemehefach hi b'emet tamei, v'ikilu livdok. V'kol hashe'eilos ... They're all answered with this question. She's not really tamei, so why do we check? Because there's a chiyuv to check. Chachamim said this is a din derabbanan, the yachid goes and checks. How much? They got to check a little bit, like sfeika. It's not really — on the צד that it's adam, right? So let's say it's adam, maybe she doesn't have to check anyway. Chachamim said you have to check. It's a safek sfeika in the checking. She's not — both sides are not coming tahor. On both sides, what's it? Maybe she's tamei, and maybe she has to check, that's not what it means. Because even if it's adam, she's tahor. But now she's chiyuv to check, so maybe it would come out good.

She's not tamei. The chametz check, just to be mechayev her to check. Everything, nevelah, all the sugya, everything fits just inside. Did you learn like this? You saw this teretz that I said to all these kashas? What? I'm saying, but to answer all the kashas. Who does? Who? Okay, okay, okay. You hear the vort? You hear it? I'm not asking it to be a safek. Same svara. You say she isn't, because even if she's red, she's tahor. Maybe she has to check, okay? But if she would have checked, it might have been good. She's not tamei. If she's tamei, you can't come to that. Maybe it wouldn't disintegrate. There's no—it's not two sides of a coin. It's not the same coin, two sides. It's a different question. One is maybe she's tamei or tahor, and even if she's red, which means maybe she's tahor anyway, now she's חייב to check, yeah, but maybe the check would have been good.