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Shabbos Borer: Removing Food to Make Room on a Plate Versus Selecting Pesoles

Original title: 091105_003 borer moving object on you plate.mp3

The next shailah I want to discuss was, in case a person has a full plate of food, and he's going to take off some only to make room on the plate. He wants to take off a certain min...

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The next shailah I want to discuss was, in case a person has a full plate of food, and he's going to take off some only to make room on the plate. He wants to take off a certain min because there's just not enough room on the plate. Would you call that borer b'selas mitoch ochel? I also, there's a shailah, I never saw anybody talk about it, but I think it's a beautiful shailah. What are you putting? That's it. There's no room. He's putting it away. Huh? There's no room on the plate, so it's too full. So what he does, he puts away, he puts back, putting back the carrots, not he don't like. It's not about not like. It's about not liking, then it's borer b'selas mitoch ochel. He's trying to make room. He's trying to make room. If the whole plate will be carrots, he would take off the carrots. That's right. It's not different. No, if it's not a different min, so it's not a problem. The problem is, let's say it's two different minim. I don't know. I don't know. Depends, depends. So I'll tell you what I was thinking. I hold it's a nice sevara, and I'll tell you what I was thinking. If you look at seif tes-vav, there's a ganze maaseh in Shulchan Aruch about being mesaneh with the egg, with the chardal. Here: Mesaneh ... shenasan bo chardal, lesaneno mutar, litein bo beitzah, af al pi sheachelmin yored lematah, vachardal vachelmon nishar lemaalah. You're allowed to do that. So why are you allowed to do it? Ah, it's separating. So either the pshat is, we learned, because there's no problem by chelbo mino chelbo, right? We learned about this. We read the Mishnah Berurah, right? ... the Mishnah Berurah. The Magen Avraham takke says, because chelbein and chelmin is min echad, and that's what we spoke about, is chelbein and chelmin min echad. The Taz—what? Huh? V'sanei. V'sanei, neshenos bechad, that's a little bit beitzah. Hainu me'erev Shabbos. Shabbos also sanei chardal. So this, yeah, but mechzi k'boirer, even she'eino oichel. Afilu b'yontif asur livror. Nishlamatzei, eino oimed l'achilah, afilu yechashev k'boirer, teicha pesoles. So why is it not k'boirer? Because d'af al chelmin shehu mesaneh, eino bishvil achilah, rak k'dei l'yapes mara chardal. This is what I mean. There's two reasons: either because chelbein and chelmin, the Magen Avraham says, is one min, so even if you separate the yellow and the thing, it's not called boirer. Or because you're only doing it to be meyapeh. See the lashon? K'dei l'yapes mara chardal. So it could be the same thing is to make room. You're doing it to make room. Could be there's no... efshar. It's a good answer. It's a nice, nice raya. Final last thing, last she'eilah: he's not taking off what he doesn't want to eat. He can't eat so much. Other pshat, he doesn't want to eat this. I can't ask another. So it's not to make room, yeah? He has a plate. It's too much food. So he's taking off. He's not taking off because pumpkin, he doesn't like the carrots. He just... can I just ask, carrots, chicken, kugel? So he takes off the first min. Okay, take this away. Would that be called borer pesoles? Because mamash it's not pesoles, it's just, but he doesn't want to eat it. That's not called borer pesoles. It's a nice... in Hilchos tikun ochel, if you need that it should be, that you're mesaken because you can't eat it, acher. But if you could eat it... And the only reason why is because you can't eat that much, so it's not the tikkun oichlim. It's that you can't — you, it's you. It's not the food. So efsher, that's not called tikkun oichlim. Okay, tamam, nishlam, we finished. Mitzvas Hashem, tomorrow we start shechitah. I just have to clear with what's — I don't know if he was here, he was supposed to be here tonight. No. Shapsi. I'm not going to be tomorrow night. He's chaser. What he's saying, maybe I'm going to be tomorrow night.